User talk:Kunitaka

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Liancourt Rocks

Welcome to Wikipedia. Please study the concept of Wikipedia:Neutral point of view -- the Liancourt Rocks issue is very controversial, and the article has to present a balanced view of both Japanese and Korean issues. This is also why there are only two (and exactly 2) external links for each side. Jpatokal 05:38, 26 Apr 2004 (UTC)

I have deleted one website.

The two current Japanese links are to Gaimusho and Shimane-kencho, which are much more authoritative than your (factually incorrect) page. Please stop removing the links. Jpatokal 08:41, 27 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Re: the name of the sea around Liancourt Rocks, as long as the Koreans themselves call it the "East Sea of Korea", this must be mentioned. It doesn't matter if the Pope declares it to be the Sea of Japan!

Please understand: Wikipedia does not aim for one "correct" view. We need to present both the Japanese and the Korean view. Jpatokal 14:43, 6 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

You can say it in Korean version, but not in English language websites. You must respect the decision of international society. kunitaka 8:00, 7 May 2004 (UTC)

Your argument makes no sense and you do not understand the meaning of the UNCSGN resolution, which applies only to areas owned by nations. The Sea is international territory not owned by Japan or Korea. This has been debated before, see Dispute over the name of the Sea of Japan. Jpatokal 03:44, 7 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

China does not own "the Yellow Sea", but we call it so. No one calls it "West Sea". This rules applies to the Sea of Japan.kunitaka 04:44, 7 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

Both the Koreans and the Chinese call it the Yellow Sea, and the name is not in dispute. (Not that this matters, because the Liancourt Rocks are not in the Yellow Sea.) Jpatokal 06:29, 7 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

It is nice to hear that the Koreans also call "the Yellow Sea." So the following map is wrong, right?http://www.lonelyplanet.com/mapshells/north_east_asia/south_korea/south_korea.htm kunitaka 07:29, 7 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

The map is exactly right -- it lists both Yellow Sea and West Sea! Did you notice that it says "East Sea (Sea of Japan)" too? Jpatokal 10:44, 7 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

The map is wrong -- Yellow Sea and Sea of Japan. Thats it.kunitaka 10:45, 7 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

This is Wikipedia: there is no "right" or "wrong", only "Korean view" and "Japanese view"! Jpatokal 05:03, 8 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

There is no evidence that Takeshima has been Korean territory since 512. Your Korean view is not trueKunitaka 05:20, 8 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

Kunitaka, we are sick of your nationalist claim directed to undermine the perfectly legitimate rule of the ROK over the Liancourt Rocks. There is plenty of evidence that Silla held the Rocks since the 6th century, although you may not be aware of it. And by the way, I can understand Japanese, so no need to confuse the readers of this discussion.

The Koreans think the Japanese view is not true. Wikipedia does not care! We have to include both views! Jpatokal 05:10, 9 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

この文書の意味分る！？

Please understand: Wikipedia does not aim for one "correct" view. We need to present both the Japanese and the Korean view.

っていうのは、一つの「正しい」意見はない。日本が使う地名だけではなく、韓国が使う地名もあり。「違法」だっても、両方の地名を＊記録＊しないといけない。Jpatokal 11:06, 8 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

【ニューヨーク２１日共同】日本と韓国の間で論争が続いている日本海の呼称問題で、国連当局が日本政府に対し、国連の公式文書などには「日本海」を慣用語として使うと文書で確認したことが２１日分かった。ニューヨークの国連本部で開会中の「第２２回国連地名専門家グループ会合」に出席した外務省当局者が明らかにした。（共同通信 4月22日）

１）日本文部省の意見なんだけど、判断は未だしなかった。５月１７日この問題について日本や韓国が初めて会議する。link

２）もし「日本海だ」っていう判断されると、韓国が「東海」はもう言わないだと思う？

国際社会で慣用語として決定しているものを覆す理由はない。貴殿はご存知ないかも知れないが、「東海」という名称は韓国沿岸部の名称であって、決して北海道や山形近海まで東海とは言わないのである。 kunitaka 12:06, 8 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

俺がちゃんと知ってるぜ。その為東海のページに行ったら韓国の意味や日本の意味がある。 Jpatokal 05:10, 9 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]