Talk:MKNAOMI

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For a Septembe 004 deletion debate over this page see Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/MKNAOMI

Sourcing of who believes some of the unconfirmed assertions. Rossami 22:12, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)

• AIDS was created by MKNAOMI [[1]], [[2]]
• MKNAOMI was one of the CIA's mind control projects and sought to use biological agents to create a reliable "programmable" assassin [[3]]
• A prominent researcher for the project was drugged and then murdered when he began to have misgivings about his work [[4]]
• Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease was studied by MKNAOMI [[5]]

MKNAOMI referenced in Church Committee

The Senate Select Committee to Study Governmental Operations with Respect to Intelligence Activities, known as the "Church Committee" after its chairman Frank Church, conducted a wide-ranging investigation of the intelligence agencies in the post-Watergate period.

http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/church/reports/vol1/html/ChurchV1_0050a.htm

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• Results of the 1973 Church Committee Hearings, on CIA misdeeds, and the 1984 Iran/Contra Hearings

I added it to the External links section. The introduction of this article has been expanded to conform to the facts found in that link. The conspiracy section that casts doubt on MKNAOMI's involvement with programmable biological weapons and incapacitating techniques has been removed as it is no longer necessary. This is mainly because MKNAOMI has been confirmed to be a project that was intended to create programmable biological weapons that kill and incapacitate targets. The source above clearly confirms it.

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• • Just wanted to say that there is SOC mentioned once and also SOD mentioned once, can someone either check to make those one and the same if they are really one and the same, or define SOD, so that people know what it si? Thanks. I am new to Wikipedia editing, so if I made a mistake, please be nice to me.--LanguageSLO 20:44, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

The paragraph mentioning the SOC suggests that "the U.S. Army's Special Operations Command (SOC) was assigned to assist the CIA in the development, testing, and maintenance procedures for the biological agents and delivery systems (1952)" However, Wikipedia's own article on the SOC states that it was first concieved in 1980 and first existed in 1982. There are no citations for any of the claims in this paragraph. 118.107.146.242 (talk) 04:00, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

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Discussion about the possible meaning of the codename MKNAOMI

I don't know if this is relevant or not, but: the Kanji characters representing the name Naomi in Japanese (直美), also represent the words 'Direct' (or 'straight') 'U.S.' when translated into Chinese (I claim no special expertise here - I used Google to do the translation). Whether the code name MKNAOMI is alluding to the possibility that the products of the project were tested on or used against U.S. citizens I do not know, but I think it is not an unreasonable speculation. Given this example, it also seems possible that (i) the term Naomi may be used in other contexts in intelligence information to refer to the United States (and not just by U.S. intelligence agencies), and (ii) Japanese/Chinese and Chinese/Japanese translations where a term is relevant in one of the languages but not the other may be a search space in which other intelligence agency codewords are to be found. This search space may be unique to Japanese/Chinese as they use pictographic characters which appear in both languages but have different meanings. Alternatively, the Naomi example may be unique due to the fact that Naomi is also a name in English, whereas other pairings may not yield a codeword which is also an English word. Plishman 17:50, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Response: It is my understanding that such codenames deliberately have nothing to do with the nature of the project, since the name might be available to personnel not privy to other information. The letters MK refer to the division of the agency funding the project, but NAOMI would just be a random assignment. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.34.229.126 (talk) 16:13, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Listing of Subprojects

Providing the (very) long list of subprojects would give the reader a better understanding of what the project did or did not include.71.47.124.243 (talk) 17:28, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Needs rewrite

The article states:

The darts would incapacitate guard dogs, infiltrate the area that the dogs were guarding, and then awaken the dogs upon exiting the facility.

In other words: the darts incapacitate the dogs, the darts infiltrate the area, the darts awaken the dogs. Which is incorrect: the agent(s) infiltrate the area and later awaken the dogs.

Karl gregory jones (talk) 20:22, 9 October 2018 (UTC)