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Pearl Boundaries

The exact boundaries vary depending on the source. I don't think there is any "official" boundary to the Pearl, but here are several competing ideas I've heard about what the Pearl District encompasses:

1. At minimum, the blocks which formerly were the BN railyards. This is basicly everything along the 10th Ave/11th Ave pair. This extends out a few blocks east and west, plus stretches, more or less, between Marshall Street in the north and arguably Everett Street in the south. Does not include Powell's or Brewery Blocks. Some developers like this definition to make their properties more attractive, but this area is considered popularily to be the heart of the Pearl.

2. Portland Streetcar route map definition: On Portland Streetcar maps, they indicate the Pearl as being bordered by I-405, Burnside, and the Willamette River. This imncludes Powell's and the Brewery Blocks.

3. Old Town/Chinatown exclusion: Same as the streetcar definition, but minus everything east of 5th Avenue. Some include parts of Chinatown, as some high-rise development has occured there.

Other areas sometimes included: The Pearl also could include the now-developing large parcels north of Lovejoy, including an area slopping over into the area directly beside Union Station.

Areas always excluded: Anything west of I-405 or south of Burnside.

-User:Ajbenj

I would not say Powells or Hanks is in the Pearl. That neighborhood is known as the "brewery blocks". The Pearl does not include Burnside street. Northwest 21st and trendy3rd are not part of the Pearl either, that is Knob Hill.

The Pearl does include the small parcels you mention. It would not at all be confusing to include the brewery blocks or knob hill in any discussion of the Pearl. The Pearl District encompasses both.

The Pearl neighborhood boundries are officially Broadway, Burnside, I-405 and the river, according to this PDF. --Jason McHuff 04:41, 28 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, The Brewery Blocks is a community within the boundaries of the Pearl District. Hoyt Street Yards is another community within the pearl on the north side of the district and the 13th Avenue Historic District is another distinct part of the Pearl.

Thanks!

Hey folks, I'm trying to make contribution to this page but it has been deleted several times. It's a link and yes it is to my site, but my site is a Portland fan site and is noncommercial and is fully creative commons licensed and Wikipedia is even TAKING my images and using them (most welcome!).

The link page is a collection of Pearl District photos. Would someone care to explain why this link is being deleted?

http://www.portlandground.com/archives/pearl/

What rules of the road at Wikipedia am I violating by adding this link?

Thanks, Mh7 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mh7 (talk • contribs) 14:17, 23 October 2006

Please see my detailed response on your talk page. — ERcheck (talk) 00:52, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, the site's creative commons license is {{cc-by-nc}} — creative commons, attribution required, non-commercial use — which, by my reading of Wikipedia:Image_copyright_tags#Non-free_Creative_Commons_licenses, is non-free for Wikipedia and would require additional licensing to upload and use directly. — ERcheck (talk) 00:56, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My license is this one: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.5/

I don't see how it would stop wikipedia from using my images. It is certainly my intention that those images be used, under the conditions that I describe on my site.

See Wikipedia's policy on free content. Since the intent is free use for all, in order to use images that have an "nc" (non-commercial use only) license stipulation, there must be a fair use stipulation. In the case of pictures of locations in Portland, if there are other free images available, then fair use is not easy to assert. — ERcheck (talk) 02:50, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Here is a useful map by the way: http://www.portlandground.com/maps.php

And these should settle any dispute: http://www.portlandonline.com/index.cfm?c=28130

Mh7 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mh7 (talk • contribs) 14:17, 23 October 2006

Post Office location reasoning

[From an HTML comment in the article:] I assume this is because of the proximity of rail transportation?

Could be, I think both Milwaukee, WI & NYC have/had main PO's adjacent to train stations (James Farley Post Office in the latter), later moved closer to airports. See also Railway Mail Service. --Jason McHuff (talk) 09:26, 26 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I've did a major re-write of the article (for example, the streetcar was only (barely) listed towards the bottom, though I think there's a lot more to do. Jason McHuff (talk) 09:59, 26 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

2010 Demographics please

Demographics are ten years behind the times and sorely need to be updated with current census information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.193.165.170 (talk) 06:59, 25 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Move to Pearl District?

If Pearl District just redirects here, should we get rid of the disambiguator and just move the page there? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:47, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 30 January 2020

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: No consensus, with WP:CONSISTENT supporting the maintenance of the status quo. (non-admin closure) Cwmhiraeth (talk) 14:03, 7 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Pearl District, Portland, Oregon → Pearl District – If Pearl District just redirects here, shouldn't we get rid of the disambiguator and just move the page there? --Another Believer _(Talk) 04:32, 30 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose WP:USPLACE In ictu oculi (talk) 08:22, 30 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
~~Support.~~ USPLACE does not say anything about neighborhoods. There is no WP:COMMONNAME argument for "Neighborhood, City, State" unlike the commonname argument for "City, State." If the name of a neighborhood is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC (as it seems to be here), then the article should be at that title. Dohn joe (talk) 18:41, 30 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Although, having said that, it seems that all or nearly all Portland neighborhoods have ", Portland, Oregon" in the title. Unless this one is especially well known, we probably shouldn't change just this one. We had a similar situation with the San Diego and Los Angeles neighborhood articles a few years ago, which resulted in removing the state name from each article, but keeping the city name except for a couple high-profile places. Not actually sure what the best solution here is, but I'll maintain the support !vote for now. Dohn joe (talk) 21:00, 30 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose. Okay, changing my !vote to weak oppose. This is one of those times when WP:CONSISTENCY plays a larger role than usual. I don't see enough of a reason to move this article without addressing the larger de facto convention of other neighborhood articles in Portland. I'd like to see that larger discussion first before moving this article. Dohn joe (talk) 14:50, 3 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support, per nom and Dohn joe. USPLACE does not apply to neighborhoods, and this seems to be the common name. Randy Kryn (talk) 20:34, 30 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support, per nom. Unless there is some other place that is known as Pearl District and is easily confused, I don't see a purpose of this disambiguation. § DDima 08:42, 3 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.