Talk:Lubell–Yamamoto–Meshalkin inequality
 | This article is rated Start-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | ||||||||||
| |||||||||||
Lattices
[edit]Is the lattice mentioned lattice (order) or lattice (group) ? Mr. Jones 20:19, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Previous discussion
[edit]Michael Hardy's edits between 22:21, 2004 Jun 24 and 19:40, 2004 Jul 1 are rampant cosmetic changes for the worse and added absolutely no substance to the article.
It is even silly to insist spelling out the full journal names.
Sysops really need to take a look at this issue.
It is simply demoralising to have style police running around vandalising other people's work like that.
Peter Kwok 22:04, 2004 Jul 1 (UTC)
- I find the comments about to be gratuitous hostility and nothing else. Michael Hardy 22:06, 1 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- So an edit labelled as minor, that changes "an k-set", which is incorrect, to "a k-set" is a change for the worse? I have on many occasions inadvertently allowed typos or misspellings of that sort into articles I have created or otherwise edited, and I welcome corrections others have done later. Similarly for my other edits to this particular article, such as putting a missing period at the end of a sentence. If Peter Kwok thinks it is silly to insist on full journal names, is that a reason to regard changing the abbreviation of the name of a journal to its unabbreviated name as "vandalism"? And is it silly? I have on various occasions felt frustrated because I could not parse an abbreviated name of a journal; I have sometimes needed to do a google search. Many of my edits are minor edits treating grammar, punctuation, conforming to Wikipedia's style manual, and reorganizing sentences for simplicity and clarity. I have added far more substantial content to math articles on Wikipedia than perhaps all but three or four other mathematicians (see the list at [[User:Michael Hardy). As I have pointed out on Peter Kwok's own talk page:
- Putting "In mathematics, ..." at the very beginning helps users who follow a link to an article without having any idea whether it's about stamp-collecting or religion or detective novels or botany, so that they don't have to wade through what to them may be incomprehensible technical language before finding out that it's mathematics. On a number of occasions I have started reading an incomprehensible sentence only to find out at the end of a long first sentence or even later that it's about characters in some novel I've never heard of, and I don't like that.
- Many articles on Wikipedia are written in the sort of polished style that gets them chosen to be featured on Wikipedia's main page precisely because people have polished them. I appreciate it when others contribute to articles in just that way to article I have created. Michael Hardy 22:25, 1 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Meshalkin or Meschalkin?
[edit]The reference I have is to Meschalkin, not Meshalkin. Is he one of those Russians who transliterated his name one way or another? Or did somebody here on WP goof?
I entered the name as I found it. Since I don't know the status of the other spelling, I did not change it. But having both spellings running around is obviously wrong. And just as obviously, we don't want to correct the article title if we don't have to.--192.35.35.34 15:24, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)
I have tracked it down, and he was indeed a Russian, and the paper was originally published in Russian with a German summary, hence the German-style transliteration. I will be fixing things in a few days, after I get a copy of the paper.--192.35.35.36 16:52, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Having obtained copies of the original papers, it turns out my source, Ian Anderson Combinatorics of Finite Sets incorrectly gave the impression that L,Y,M merely proved similar inequalities. The same inequality is in all three. (Well, I'd say I'm 95% certain that it's in Y. If it were not for the fact that Y seems to be copying Sperner's original proof of Sperner's theorem, I'd only be 70% certain.)
Furthermore, the transliteration is "Meshalkin" all the way, so that was a pointless digression. In addition to getting M's name off by one letter, IA also got the titles of the Y and M papers off by one letter apiece.
But let me just add, IA is a great book!--192.35.35.34 21:08, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Mathematical Reviews has it as Mešalkin, with a caron over the s. They usually put a lot of effort into getting names correct, so I vote we go with that. I think the h gives a similar sound. Also, it is usually referred to as the LYM inequality, so would that be a better title? —3mta3 (talk) 09:39, 20 May 2009 (UTC)