Talk:Clipper (programming language)
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Uniqueness
[edit]The article is slightly misleading about code blocks. It calls them "unique" when they're not really. One only has to look at `lambda' from the Lisp world to see this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.176.88.206 (talk) 21:42, 1 December 2004 (UTC)
- I agree and I removed the word from the text. Maybe they are unique if compared to xBase. EmilioSilva 23:58, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
Still active?
[edit]"As of 2005, the Clipper language is being actively implemented, and extended"
- Many are NOT using clipper but are migrating to other languages, meaning it is not actively implemented. Any comments? or should i remove this? 59.93.129.26 10:28, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
Absolutely not. Clipper is still the cornerstone of my company's product suite, and comp.lang.clipper is quite active indicating that it is still in active use worldwide.
Wyomingaires 22:13, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
- I used to use clipper and purchased Visual Objects but I did not get into using it because it did not become popular.
Gregorydavid 07:06, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
- Not Used??? SAGE-SP products Contaplus and Facturaplus, leaders in spanish merchants (Spain and many sudamerican countries) are make wit clipper 5.2 + FiveWin library. --Museo8bits 16:05, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
IMHO, yes it is still active since I was consulting for a customer still having a Clipper-driven dBase III application in 2004 ; not that far away in the past ;-) Regards User:Hefiz
General purpose?
[edit]Isn't Clipper more suited to the same niche of purpose of COBOL?
- That would rather depend on what you think the "niche" of COBOL is. I can't say I've ever noticed that Clipper has a real "niche" as such -- I've seen it used to develop all sorts of applications. davep 09:09, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
configuration imprimante —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.200.4.148 (talk) 07:26, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
sharing a dbase ii rd plus file
[edit]in programme how can i share a dbase iii rd plus file —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.94.117.220 (talk) 06:12, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
definition
[edit]Clipper is not a programming language IMHO. It was, and still is, a dBase language "compiler" with extensions (the so-called Clipper libraries). A paraggraph could also be added about the Ashton-Tate answer to the widely-spread out Summer87 version (operating on dBase III+ if I remember correctly) : dBase IV, which was also "compiled" and led to many porting projects (including one I made in 1990).
As far as I remember, Clipper was nevcer considered as a language per se ; it was considered an extension to dBase III.
just my 0.02$ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.243.20.181 (talk) 07:00, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Response to comment above: Clipper 5.0, though introduced in 1990, was announced at the annual developer conference in 1989 by company president Larry Heimendinger. I was in the room when Jo Sager of Miller Comms wrote the press release and worked on the launch team with Larry & Brian Russell. It was a clear mandate at the time to move the product from the "compiler" category to "programming language." That's how the company positioned it from that moment on. Russell was quoted as saying "...you could write Clipper 5.0 in Clipper 5.0." My strong recollection is that the developer community at the time largely accepted the new positioning and considered v. 5.0 to be a stand alone programming language. 75.139.194.39 (talk) 23:50, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
The comment above about Clipper 5.0 is accurate in terms of position Clipper as a programming language. While initially it was simply a way to compile dBase III instructions into executable code (ran faster than interpretive dBase, protected source code, distributed royalty fee), Clipper 5.0 introduced many new language constructs and concepts that set it apart from dBase IV while retaining much of the basic knowledge dBase IV offered on how to create programs. Moreover the trajectory of Clipper - building a Windows version, adding an integrated development environment, and other language conapts - would have solidified the new language idea. Brian Russell and Rich McConnell drove the development direction of Clipper certainly, but I drove it's conceptual adoption with the help of a great team at Nantucket and third party developers around the world. Larry Heimendinger24.19.251.35 (talk) 23:28, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[1]
References
- ^ personal knowledge as President of Nantucket
windows support
[edit]Among the third-party extensions to Clipper, a cornerstone was clip4win, the first library that allowed clipper programmers to write applications running under Windows with a Graphic User Interface, evolving the language to the incoming standard. Fivewin followed, another GUI-capable library, conceived by Antonio Linares and F. Pulpon (the history will remember probably only the former, the one who he started the Harbour project). Actually the community of xBase programmers can choose among many compilers and pseudo-compilers, the heirs of the glorious Clipper, running under Windows, Linux and other Operating Systems, with many different GUIs, but this is another story. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.6.189.135 (talk) 18:42, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
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