User:DryGrain/debate
<LSD-N-DMT> you took some coke
<LSD-N-DMT> with..
<DryGrain> ?
<LSD-N-DMT> that chemical?
<DryGrain> which
<DryGrain> what
<DryGrain> huh
<LSD-N-DMT> the chemical
<LSD-N-DMT> they r talking about in the channel
<DryGrain> dihydrogen monoxide?
<LSD-N-DMT> yes
<DryGrain> have i taken coke with it?
<LSD-N-DMT> jung told me you have
<LSD-N-DMT> and i dont know what that chemical is
<LSD-N-DMT> was just wondering
<LSD-N-DMT> [18:53:52] <jungboho> drygrain had some coke laced with it
<LSD-N-DMT> [18:53:56] <jungboho> speak to him
<DryGrain> oh
<DryGrain> yeah
<DryGrain> but dude
<DryGrain> its allover the place
<DryGrain> in the air, in the oceans and rivers, in your food...
<DryGrain> lil bit in coke was no biggie
<LSD-N-DMT> what does it do to youZ?
<LSD-N-DMT> i mean
<LSD-N-DMT> how bad is it
<LSD-N-DMT> what does it do
<LSD-N-DMT> etc.
<DryGrain> well
<DryGrain> theres never been testing on it
<DryGrain> just like most psychedelics
<LSD-N-DMT> what did it do to you?
<DryGrain> ehmmm
<DryGrain> it was different
<DryGrain> really potentiated he coke
<LSD-N-DMT> urmm..
<LSD-N-DMT> bad come down?
<DryGrain> not really
<DryGrain> but hey
<DryGrain> science knows as much about it as they do all the psychedelics youre bashing
<LSD-N-DMT> iam not bashing psyhedelics
<LSD-N-DMT> :\
<LSD-N-DMT> why would i bash psyhedelics when its all i do now adays
<LSD-N-DMT> i believe in psyhedelics alot
<LSD-N-DMT> but
<LSD-N-DMT> abusing them
<DryGrain> well youre saying with no supporting evidence that they cause brain damage and insanity
<LSD-N-DMT> as some serious health risks
<LSD-N-DMT> read information
<LSD-N-DMT> see for yourself
<DryGrain> theres no proof or even suggestive evidence
<LSD-N-DMT> sure there is
<DryGrain> what information
<DryGrain> where
<LSD-N-DMT> just read up www.erowid.com or pick up some books on psyhedelics
<DryGrain> i have
<DryGrain> still no scientific evidence
<LSD-N-DMT> how long u been doing psyhedelics?
<DryGrain> they cite no sources
<DryGrain> just unsupported claims
<LSD-N-DMT> u cant relay on information on drugs all the time they dont support what happends to alot of bodies i believe what i believe because i have been using psyhedelics for almost 10 years
<LSD-N-DMT> and i can cleary see brain damage
<LSD-N-DMT> and vision damnage
<DryGrain> ...or youre getting older mabye?
<LSD-N-DMT> nope
<DryGrain> dont blame your lump of decaying organic matter's composting process on the drugs
<LSD-N-DMT> how old r u?
<DryGrain> thats irrelevant to the debate
<LSD-N-DMT> actully
<LSD-N-DMT> its very relevant
<LSD-N-DMT> could u please tell me your age
<DryGrain> youre attempting to gain personal information and attack my credibility rather than addressing the issues im bringing up
<LSD-N-DMT> well..
<LSD-N-DMT> u sound young
<LSD-N-DMT> maybe
<LSD-N-DMT> under 20
<LSD-N-DMT> urmm...
<LSD-N-DMT> when i was that age i would try to find anything to protect drugs
<LSD-N-DMT> and be in denial
<DryGrain> i want you to confront the fact that there is no conclusive evidence that "drugs are bad", no matter what thetv says
<LSD-N-DMT> and make them seem safe and reasonable
<LSD-N-DMT> well drugs r very bad
<LSD-N-DMT> ive had some crazy fucked up freinds from drugs
<LSD-N-DMT> it depends on the mind
<LSD-N-DMT> some minds Drugs work great for you
<LSD-N-DMT> but others
<LSD-N-DMT> destory their world and their mind
<DryGrain> sigh
<LSD-N-DMT> mind+body works differently with every chemical
<DryGrain> so you live in an ethical dilemma?
<LSD-N-DMT> have u gotten out of high school?
<LSD-N-DMT> lol
<LSD-N-DMT> experience the chemicals
<LSD-N-DMT> before u talk about them
<DryGrain> "drugs are bad" = true | i do drugs | i ama bad person
<LSD-N-DMT> iam talking from experience
<DryGrain> excuse me
<DryGrain> once again
<LSD-N-DMT> your talking from bullshit
<DryGrain> youre trying to attack me rather than the issues im addressing
<LSD-N-DMT> actully
<LSD-N-DMT> your trying to attack me
<LSD-N-DMT> on my beliefs
<DryGrain> lets keep this civil
<LSD-N-DMT> your so hypocritical
<LSD-N-DMT> hahaha
<DryGrain> im attacking your beliefs not you
<LSD-N-DMT> whateverrrr!
<DryGrain> okay
<LSD-N-DMT> how can u attack a belief
<LSD-N-DMT> without knowledge
<LSD-N-DMT> or experience?
<DryGrain> why do you assume i have no knowledge of expierience
<LSD-N-DMT> sounds kinda ignorant to me
<LSD-N-DMT> if u did u would have brought that up eariler
<DryGrain> you know what sounds ignorant to me?
<DryGrain> watching TV and trusting the american media to tell the truth
<LSD-N-DMT> well iam sure your coked out mind will think of sumtin
<LSD-N-DMT> :P
<LSD-N-DMT> well
<LSD-N-DMT> seeing
<DryGrain> and then saying its common sense
<LSD-N-DMT> iam not from america
<DryGrain> florida
<LSD-N-DMT> lol
<LSD-N-DMT> yup
<DryGrain> yeah you are
<LSD-N-DMT> but only been here a little bit
<DryGrain> oh i see
<LSD-N-DMT> i dont watch american tv
<LSD-N-DMT> and work for a euro company here
<DryGrain> mhm mhm
<LSD-N-DMT> i dont even speak english to anyone
<LSD-N-DMT> but on the computer
<LSD-N-DMT> lol
<DryGrain> so where do you get the idea that it should be obvious that drugs are bad
<LSD-N-DMT> i never said they are bad
<LSD-N-DMT> i believe...
<LSD-N-DMT> they dont work with alot of people
<LSD-N-DMT> thats proven
<LSD-N-DMT> especially psyhedelics
<DryGrain> you never said they are bad?
<DryGrain> wait wait wait
<DryGrain> ill let you retract that
<LSD-N-DMT> maybe i said that over there
<LSD-N-DMT> but i said...
<DryGrain> tell me what you meant
<LSD-N-DMT> they are bad to alot of people
<LSD-N-DMT> i believe
<LSD-N-DMT> urmm.. okie..
<LSD-N-DMT> i believe.. that alot of drugs are bad to alot of people
<LSD-N-DMT> and dont work right
<LSD-N-DMT> main reason
<LSD-N-DMT> most of the chemicals r illegal
<DryGrain> what do you mean dont work right?
<LSD-N-DMT> is for dumb users
<LSD-N-DMT> who shouldnt be using
<LSD-N-DMT> well...
<LSD-N-DMT> like dumb asses who go on a trip after they havbe the worst day of their life
<DryGrain> or mabye the reason theres dumb users is because the drugs are illegal?
<DryGrain> hmmmm?
<LSD-N-DMT> than they find them self syaing their a glass of oranger juice
<LSD-N-DMT> bout to fall down
<LSD-N-DMT> and die
<LSD-N-DMT> in a mental hospital
<LSD-N-DMT> heheh
<LSD-N-DMT> lol
<DryGrain> if the drugs were legal
<LSD-N-DMT> well its not
<DryGrain> the information about them and using them responsibly would be freely available
<LSD-N-DMT> so dont say "irrlevent" information :)
<DryGrain> a lack of that creates dumb users
<LSD-N-DMT> drugs will never be legalized in america
<LSD-N-DMT> hehe
<LSD-N-DMT> maybe in some euro countries
<DryGrain> its not irrelevant im explaining to you that correlation does not imply causation
<LSD-N-DMT> shit pot isnt even legal yet
<LSD-N-DMT> urmm..
<LSD-N-DMT> speak english for me please
<LSD-N-DMT> :|
<LSD-N-DMT> i speak like 3 other langauges
<LSD-N-DMT> hehe
<LSD-N-DMT> my englishh sux
<DryGrain> youre assuming that "drugs are illegal because people who use them are uneducated about them"
<DryGrain> i'm saying that both of those are true but its not cause and effect
<DryGrain> drugs are illegal = true
<DryGrain> most users are uneducated = true
<DryGrain> one didnt have to cause the other
<LSD-N-DMT> okay
<LSD-N-DMT> also.. most people who use drugs these days use them on their problems
<LSD-N-DMT> :\
<DryGrain> these days?
<LSD-N-DMT> yeah back in the day people used drugs for medical/enlightment/addicition withdrawling(to the medical section)
<DryGrain> thats been one of the major motivations for altered consciouness throughout history
<LSD-N-DMT> now they use them for other reasons
<DryGrain> ...back in the day?
<DryGrain> alcohol has been around as long as written history
<DryGrain> other that sterilization as a medical use, alcohol has no use other than to escape ones worries
<LSD-N-DMT> i have no interest in the information of alcoholl
<LSD-N-DMT> nahh
<LSD-N-DMT> i get drunk for my pain
<LSD-N-DMT> another reason i use psyhedelics
<LSD-N-DMT> is for my medical reasons
<LSD-N-DMT> numbs me like
<LSD-N-DMT> no other
<LSD-N-DMT> :)
<DryGrain> uhm
<DryGrain> wtf
<DryGrain> rephrase everything you just said
<LSD-N-DMT> you know what MD is?
<LSD-N-DMT> the disease
<DryGrain> they stand for quite a few things
<LSD-N-DMT> muscle disase
<DryGrain> muscular dystrophy
<LSD-N-DMT> ja :)
<LSD-N-DMT> i have that
<DryGrain> okay
<LSD-N-DMT> thats why i use drugs
<DryGrain> o the reason you use hallucinogens is because they help your MD, and the pretty colors and spiritual enlightentment are just a side effect?
<DryGrain> thats sounds like a crock to me
<LSD-N-DMT> hahahha
<LSD-N-DMT> nahh
<LSD-N-DMT> i like the numbing effects from psyhedelics
<LSD-N-DMT> but of course i use psyhedelics for spirtuial enlightment
<DryGrain> hm
<DryGrain> we were talkinging abut motivations for drug use
<DryGrain> theres only a few major ones
<LSD-N-DMT> agreeable
<LSD-N-DMT> urmm i wish i had you on a more energeitic day
<LSD-N-DMT> hehe
<LSD-N-DMT> so i could fight and argue
<LSD-N-DMT> i wasnt looking to have a debate today
<DryGrain> im eneretic
<LSD-N-DMT> too damn tired
<LSD-N-DMT> im far from it
<DryGrain> ill be even more so when my dealer gets back
<LSD-N-DMT> i woke up at 8am and got 3 hours of sleep
<LSD-N-DMT> hehe
<DryGrain> by the way
<LSD-N-DMT> now its 7.20
<DryGrain> dihydrogen monoxide is one of the many names for water
<LSD-N-DMT> okie
<DryGrain> and if you read over everything i said about it, its all true
<LSD-N-DMT> lets debate later when i can
<DryGrain> mhm
<LSD-N-DMT> okay
<LSD-N-DMT> im gunna go to sleep for a little bit :\
<LSD-N-DMT> ready to pass out
<LSD-N-DMT> your young
<LSD-N-DMT> and probably some dopamine junkie
<DryGrain> im not
<LSD-N-DMT> you have energy
<LSD-N-DMT> lol
<LSD-N-DMT> iam older
<LSD-N-DMT> and tired
<LSD-N-DMT> hehe
<DryGrain> i prefer GABA and endorphins
<DryGrain> dopamines nice too tho
<LSD-N-DMT> hehe
<LSD-N-DMT> :)
<DryGrain> have fun
<LSD-N-DMT> i prefer psyhedelics
<LSD-N-DMT> but old these days
<LSD-N-DMT> can only do it every now and than
<LSD-N-DMT> cyas mate
<LSD-N-DMT> auf widersehen