Talk:Indian Standard Time

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—Yamara ✉ 17:13, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Daylight savings

Why was DST used during the 1962 and 1971 wars ? Both were fought in winter (Nov and Dec respectively) and I am under the impression that DST is used only for summer. Tintin (talk) 14:34, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't it the other way round? Daylight savings is used to fully utilise the daylight by shifting the time ahead by an hour so that the effects of an early sunset could be nullified. - Aksi_great (talk) 14:38, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In England, the GMT and British times are same now, but during the summer the GMT lags behind BST by one hour (IST then leads BST by 4:30). So I think it is in summer that they change the clocks. See also Daylight_saving_time#Rationales_for_DST (but it is also true that nothing prevents a country from using it in the other way during winter). Tintin (talk) 14:45, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think editors should provide the reasons for using DST during the wars instead of relying on conjectures or assumptions. It actually leaves one hungry for more information on this specific aspect. Many seem to have raised this point. tx Idleguy 14:55, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I can't say specifically why it was used in this case, but daylight savings time is used during war times because it naturally tends to conserve oil/gas/electricity/whatever else is used to provide light. War time rationing tends to create the need to do this. Raul654 00:39, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Joke - IST

IST is often used as the reason why Indians are always late in India. This is most definitely true as well. Indians are late to all social gatherings and everything in between. Indian Standard Time is when a party starts at 5 P.M. and an Indian arrives at 6:30, eats food and leaves shortly after.

You ae disrespecting indians Dirty Socks need detergent (talk) 10:29, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Map problem

The map showing the longitude is inaccurate because the longitude is not a straight line because of the curvature of the earth's surface. Arvindn 03:17, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That depends on the projection. If it's Mercator then the longitude line would be straight. But, since there's no graticule or projection information on the image page, it's hard to say.Stratosphere ^{(U T)} 06:24, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As an added note, it isn't limited to Mercator. If that particular longitude is used for the standard meridian for some projections, it would also appear straight. Stratosphere ^{(U T)} 06:27, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Aisha Das (talk) 09:58, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Special Subject?

Wow, one down, 23 to go. We could probably choose something more interesting by just hitting "Random Article": I just did that, and got "Cadaveric spasm." Not bad. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Thomasmallen (talk • contribs).

There are actually 25 different standard time zones, and IST is not one of the standard time zones anyway. (25 time zones exist because the International Date Line bisects a time zone.) Featured articles are chosen, not for interest, but for quality of the article. —Cuiviénen 04:09, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

And yet... you'd think there was SOMETHING out there we could have found a happy medium with. --Soonlaypale 07:56, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Lock?

This article should be protected because of many vandalisms. --grawity 10:44, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Because the page is today's featured article, it is not recommended to protect it. See Main Page featured article protection for details. — Ambuj Saxena (☎) 11:27, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sidereal time

I am bemused by the mention of the ancient Indian astronomers' sidereal day. The article states that it begins at sunrise at the prime meridian. If it's a sidereal clock, then it must be defined by the rise or set of a particular star. By definition, solar and sidereal time drift relative to one another by 24 hours every year.

If the statement in the article is true, then it also needs a date to pin it down to one particular sunrise, and this would still lead to inaccuracies due to a year not being an integral multiple of a day.

Please could the author, or someone who knows the background here, please clarify this matter? Thanks. King Hildebrand 12:27, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I believe the term sidereal to be incorrectly used in this context, and so have removed it from the article, replacing it, where necessary with astronomical. If I am mistaken, please let a more knowledgeable person revert my edits, and explain - either here or in the main article - why. Cheers! --King Hildebrand 21:22, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism here?

after the introduction I see this, " This page is a bunch of crap. All they are telling you is lies and a bunch og stuff that you really don't want to look at. if you really want somthing reliable than you should go to a real encyclopedia, not a FREE. Alls that means is that anyone can dit it and put in there own stuff that makesno sence at all.You can find a lot more free encyclopedia on lie but Wikipedia is a crock."

I try to edit it out, but for some reason, it doesn't show up inthe edit page. I'm wondering what's going on and if anyone is trying to fix it.

Moonym 16:28, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Disputed areas

So what time is used in the disputed areas of the north and Arunchal Pradesh? Keep in mind, Pakistan (+5 GMT) and China (+8 GMT) claims areas that India also claims, so, considering what nation has a claim on a particular territory, there could be as much as a 2.5 hour discrepancy! Do people use times based on which country they owe their allegiance to? --Canuckguy 14:46, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't the population there largely rural and agricultural? I bet most of them get up when it gets light, go to bed when it gets dark, and neither know nor care what the clocks in Islamabad, Delhi, and Beijing say. —An gr 20:51, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

They would obviously keep the time with the country that administers them. :) =Nichalp «Talk»= 13:24, 18 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations

Congratulations to all editors who worked to promote this article to FA-status. :) Ekantik ^talk 17:14, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Abuse

Somebody has abused this article. Please reedit and correct this article.

Silly comment removed

I see someone removed the comment near the top of the article (that stated "this page is a bunch of crap..." etc) while I was reading the discussion page, looking for relevant commentary.

Omega Man 23:24, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Stretchable time

Indians joke about IST as Indian Stretchable Time since people generally do not stick to time and scheduled events do not follow the timetable that was first set up.[20]

IST "Indian Standard Time" can also jokingly refer to arriving late to Indian gatherings or the late start of Indian events.[21] For example, if a concert is scheduled to being at 7:00 PM, often it will begin no earlier than 8:00 PM, a.k.a. "7:00 PM, IST".

Both of the above apply to some extent to Malaysia and Malaysian standard time BTW 203.109.240.93 15:13, 24 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Name change

I object to the article name being changed to Time in India on grounds of "consistency". IST is a defined timezone, a proper noun, while [Time in ABC] is a created one, only justifiable if a country has multiple timezones. move =Nichalp «Talk»= 17:13, 9 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This action was done unilaterally by Tobias Conradi (talk · contribs), not to mention tarnishing a featured article by removing large quantities of text from the lead. =Nichalp «Talk»= 17:19, 9 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep the name Indian Standard Time, per the rationale presented by Nichalp.--Dwaipayan (talk) 17:47, 9 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Obvious Keep for the name Indian Standard Time, which is the proper name for the time zone analogous to Greenwich Mean Time. Why wasn't the move to "Time in India" discussed ? Abecedare 01:39, 10 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Mirzapur mention

Is Mirzapur's name mentioned anywhere in some formal documentation about IST? If yes, please quote. If Mirzapur is included because it lies close to 82.5E latitude, then there will be a bunch of other districts from Chattisgarh and Andhra Pradesh. The mention, as is to me and many, without any supporting citation, irrelevant. Vivek^Talk!! 18:20, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Assam Tea Garden time

Hey, many tea gardens in Assam observe their own time zone that is Indian Standard Time +1 . This is a tradition that the British tea garden managers started to increase output in the tea gardens and is still observed. The reason I did not edit it into the main article is because I do not have any references. I know that because I am Assamese and lived my life a mere 100 feet away from a tea garden!! :)

Priyankoo 03:04, 30 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sources! :) If you can find a reliable source, please do not hesitate to add. =Nichalp «Talk»=

Done! Have a look if I have done it right!

Gahori (talk) 12:31, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

in popular culture

how about a subsection on "indian standard time" as in the joke sense of not being on time? 'in popular culture' subsections are quite plausible as they occur across wikipedia. Lihaas (talk) 10:52, 30 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Calcutta / Kolkata

Sorry, my knowing of this language isn’t good enough for to try my own edit. But I think, within Time under British rule in India the use of Calcutta and Kolkata (acutal just one target for both words here!) might not be clear. Sbd. with better language abilities should have an eye on it!--87.163.56.171 (talk) 23:28, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Criticism and proposals - incorrect calculation

This sentence has an incorrect calculation: "The country's east–west distance of more than 2,933 km (1,200 mi) covers over 28 degrees of longitude,"

2933km is 1822miles, so something is wrong there - not sure which figure is correct. 95.210.243.242 (talk) 22:54, 9 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Requested Move

This discussion was listed at Wikipedia:Move review on 26 May 2014. The result of the move review was overturn and restore to Indian Standard Time.

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Moved; the "popularity" issue should not be a problem since Indian Standard Time remains a redirect. ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 19:45, 24 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The abbreviated Timezone IST (UTC+5:30 hours) stands for India Standard Time. The following links show the correct name of this timezone. I suggest this article be moved to India Standard Time.

http://www.timeanddate.com/library/abbreviations/timezones/asia/ist.html

http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/time-zone/asia/india/time/indian-time-zones.htm

http://www.timetemperature.com/asia/india_time_zone.shtml

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/india/new-delhi

http://www.worldtimezone.com/

|*| Pdheg |*|^{Talk to me} 16:41, 8 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Indian Standard Time is by far the more popular term in English. A simple Google Search shows,
- Indian Standard Time (9.7 million hits)
- India Standard Time (1.6 million hits)
- Even the major news agencies refer to it as "Indian Standard Time"
- Therefore I believe in English, Indian Standard Time is by far the most popular use. Gsingh (talk) 03:31, 9 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment @Gsingh: Can you share the links to the search results? You need to carefully study the search results and it is then you will notice that India Standard Time is used popularly. None of the News channels refer to IST by Indian Standard Time. Do you have supporting links of your claims? |*| Pdheg |*|^{Talk to me} 04:22, 9 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes they do, you need to open the links and search for Indian Standard Time, they are clearly referring to it as Indian Standard Time. As for the google searches you can see that Indian Standard Time is much more popular, please try do this yourself next time before requesting such a move.

- Google Search
  - India Standard Time: https://www.google.ca/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=DehsU8jGC8mC8Qfr2IHYDg#q=%22India+Standard+Time%22+ (1.7 million hits)
  - Indian Standard Time: ~~https://www.google.ca/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=DehsU8jGC8mC8Qfr2IHYDg#q=%22Indian+Standard+Time%22~~ https://www.google.ca/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=DehsU8jGC8mC8Qfr2IHYDg#q=%22Indian+Standard+Time%22+-%22india+standard+time%22 (9.7 million hits)
- Google News Search:
  - India Stardard Time: https://www.google.ca/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=DehsU8jGC8mC8Qfr2IHYDg#q=%22India+Standard+Time%22&tbm=nws (1 hit)
  - Indian Standard Time: https://www.google.ca/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=DehsU8jGC8mC8Qfr2IHYDg#q=%22Indian+Standard+Time%22&tbm=nws (40 hits)
- Google Books
  - India Standard Time: https://www.google.ca/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=DehsU8jGC8mC8Qfr2IHYDg#q=%22India+Standard+Time%22&tbm=bks (1000 hits)
  - Indian Standard Time: https://www.google.ca/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=DehsU8jGC8mC8Qfr2IHYDg#q=%22Indian+Standard+Time%22&tbm=bks (52,000 hits)
- Gsingh (talk) 14:43, 9 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Strongly support @Gsingh: Kindly have another careful look at the links you have shared. Even in your search for Indian Standard Time, most of the search results are for India Standard Time. |*| Pdheg |*|^{Talk to me} 15:05, 9 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You are correct Pdheg, that old linked was the combined results of Indian + India standard time and was showing results of 325 millions hits. I have recorrected it to only include Indian Standard Time, and exclude all India Standard Time hits. Please take a look at the results. 9.7 million vs 1.7 million hits. Gsingh (talk) 20:59, 9 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support -- 65.94.171.126 (talk) 05:03, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move May 2014

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The result of the move request was: Not moved. Please make a move review. Acalycine^{(talk/contribs)} 09:25, 25 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

India Standard Time → Indian Standard Time – I’m not sure why the above move was made, since it was contradicted by the evidence of usage (as well as grammar, India Standard Time is just not good English). Gsingh has provided the usage data, see previous discussion, even if it needs careful reading. Google book search is in favour of the original usage Indian Standard Time by 52000 to 1000, Google News by 40 to 1, and Google web search (at that time) by 9.7m to 1.7m. So on the evidence it should not have been moved. The impetus for the move presumably was two users voting for the move, versus one against, even though the one against gave sound reasons against the move. Imc (talk) 08:37, 25 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Please make a move review, instead of making a new request. Closed. Acalycine^{(talk/contribs)} 09:25, 25 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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