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I'm not sure if this is the right way to answer the above, but thank you for letting me know. That you saw this edit so soon may mean that this article is hotly discussed, and in that case I apologize for not being more careful. But I really thought this change could not be disputed, as the original words "are rejected" were rather vague, without specifying that the text has been rejected for inclusion in the Bible, and the verb being in the present further obfuscated the intended meaning. Instead of adding all that explanation, I chose to just replace "are rejected", also because the link to Apocryphal would give anyone interested a better understanding of the situation than could be put in this place.

Correction: maybe the phrasing as in the separate article Gospel of Peter could be put in here? It goes like this:

"which were rejected by the Church Fathers and the Catholic Church's synods of Carthage and Rome, which established the New Testament canon, as apocryphal"Geke (talk) 16:26, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I understand why you changed what you changed and I am not personally disputing it. However, there is always the chance that someone will dispute it in some way or consider the prior wording to be superior. As some editors have their filters set to ignore "minor" edits, they would not have the chance to review this edit. Easy rule of thumb: If an edit changes the meaning of the text it is not minor.

(As a side note, the section in question needs a bit of a tweak. From the outside looking in, I think the use of the word "apocryphal" is potentially problematic. There are several different interpretations of the word. I hear it used to mean "fictional" on a regular basis. The narrower definition, though, hinges on who is speaking. "Apocryphal" writings might be false, heretical, of questionable authorship, esoteric, etc. Saying the RCC deems these works apocryphal is unenlightening to those most likely to be wondering "Gee, why don't I remember seeing these books in my Bible?" Further, it fails to acknowledge that most of the texts in question are rejected by Christianity in general. More generally, the article seems to do a poor job of separating what various faiths accept about Peter from what is academically accepted as historically true about Peter.) - SummerPhD (talk) 17:09, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I get the point. And I'll be more accurate in future. I often stumble over passages that need work, which doesn't necessarily mean that I notice what needs to be done. See if you like it better now: I've changed the sentence again, trying to cater for all factors. With that, I think the introduction is now OK--I can't speak for the rest of the article, as I have only scanned it.Geke (talk) 20:25, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Nice work. I think it's an improvement. (Given that it's a religion topic, your edit will likely be either completely ignored or launch a huge edit war involving accusations of bad faith, sock puppets and outrageous histrionics.) Cheers. - SummerPhD (talk) 21:17, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the thumbs up, but are things really that sensitive/erratic these days? Poor Wikipedia newbies!Geke (talk) 06:29, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Do I think a fairly innocuous edit to a religion-related article could set off somebody's "OMG!-they're-attacking-my-core-beliefs" sensor? I saw an edit war ending in a block over "19th" versus "nineteenth" recently. And then there's an article about a soda with recurring efforts to emphasize a distant historical connection to Nazis... - SummerPhD (talk) 13:45, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Talk page note

Hi Geke, New talk page threads are generally placed at the bottom of the page, so I moved yours there. I hope this is OK. You can see the thread and my response here. Cheers!-- — Keithbob • Talk • 20:34, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Confusion about user (combination and permutations)

Dear Geke, you left me a message saying that I reverted your redirection of the link "Combinations and permutations". However, this was not done by me, the reversion was just to a version that I installed in 2011. As the history entry shows, he reversion was actually done by the user Scope creep. By the way, it's been a long time since I've done much serious contribution to Wikipedia, and I agree that there is a lot to learn/remember in order to do things the right way. Good luck editing, Marc van Leeuwen (talk) 10:28, 6 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

OK, yes, now I see it. Now I have to start dealing with creeps to edit Wikipedia…! Not sure if I’m willing to enter into that :) Thanks for your answer; maybe you know of some sort of tutorial or a series of lessons somewhere, not necessarily on Wikipedia? Or did you learn little by little by trial and error, i.e. the hard way? Instead of those myriad loose help pages, a short structured course – and maybe also a longer version – is all it takes to get more people to contribute, and to contribute in a better way, I believe.--Geke (talk) 12:55, 6 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Update: I just noticed the tutorial at the top of your list of useful links. At first glance, it doesn’t go as far as templates, but I’ll give it a try anyway. Thanks again!--Geke (talk) 12:58, 6 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Copyvio problem at Talk:Johnson & Johnson

Hi, Geke, Just wanted to give you a heads-up that I removed the text you cut and pasted from the Cilag site to the J&J talk page. WP's policy on copyright violations extends to talk pages-- see WP:C-P#TALK. Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 17:26, 8 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Grandma, I’ve studied how you have edited the article – very instructive! I’m just wondering, how did you look for the book info? I didn’t know better than just searching the web and found one copy on Amazon, published in 2006, not 2020.

After some looking around, I also discovered the "cite book" template, and after some more searching, I even found the Help page about it (I was puzzled by the two fields "page" and "pages"). I confess that it’s so overwhelming that I’ll have to leave that for a rainy day… So thank you very much for this! --Geke (talk) 18:25, 8 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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