Talk:Muhammad bin Saud Al Muqrin

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Too pro-Saud?

This looks a bit pro-Saud to me. I paraphrased what was said in the article but deleted "earned respect" because it sounds too much like an overt compliment. "Built support" sounds more factual, so I left it in.

Also, I'm concerned as to whether using religion as a basis for legitimacy really did set the House of Saud apart (ie whether nobody else in the Penninsula was doing that), though I left it in, as I have no specific evidence to contradict it. I did, however, elminate "other tribes fought only for power and presitge" as it seemed a gratuitous shot at them. If use of religion really did set the House of Saud apart, that's the important thing, and all you really need to say.

I still have my concerns from an NPOV point of view.

--stancollins 27 April 2005

Wahhab?

"Using the ideology of Wahhab..."

His name wasn't "Wahhab". Nor was it 'abdul-Wahhab (that's his fathers name). His name was Muhammad. You can write "BIN ABDUL-Wahhab" (son of abdul-Wahhab), but you can't write "Wahhab" because that's not what his name was at all. Nor was it his fathers name. Wahhab is one of the names of God, in islam, and this mans name was "ABDUL-Wahhab" The slave/servant of Wahhab. The same with ABDUL-LAH, the slave/servant of Allah.

Who took the freedom to rename this fella?

Butchered Beyond Comprehension

Someone butchered the article beyond comprehension. I'm going to try to restore a previous version of it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Astrohoundy (talk • contribs) 20:31, 15 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Dates are confusing

In one part of the article it states that he was born 1687 but in another part of the article it says his reign began early 1600's. Which is true? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:9000:FF00:8E:C181:172E:81C9:6B5D (talk) 11:32, 18 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Bin or ibn?

Why the title says "bin" while everywhere in the texts the form is "ibn"? Ivan T. (talk) 23:38, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

because they are two forms of the same arabic word. And Saud ibn Muhammad ibn Muqrin and Saoud bin Mohammed al-Mouqrin are two different pages about the same person, father of this one (Muhammad bin Saud). Can somebody ask for merging them ?--Df (talk) 21:23, 9 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]