Talk:Assimilation (Star Trek)

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I wrote it. How do you think? mailto:cying@mail2000.com.tw

Did you make it up? I mean, are these steps somehow documented in an episode or film? CGS 10:40, 11 Sep 2003 (UTC).

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Wouldn't this be better moved to the Borg entry? -- Cabalamat 19:51, 13 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Assimilate me

Currently, assimilation points to melting pot and assimilate is a separate article on the Borg. I think there should be an article named "assimilation" with "assimilate" and "melting pot" pointing to it. The article on the borg could be its own article. Maybe "assimilation (star trek)" ?

In a broad sense, to assimilate means: "to render similar" "to bring to resemblance or conformity".

Assimilation has various meanings too. We can speak of 1) the assimilation of an individual through voluntary immigration or 2) the assimilation of an entire people by another one, typically in a position of power and numerical superiority. We can speak of cultural assimilation and linguistic assimilation. We can also speak of a person assimilating new knowledge or the conversion of nutriment into the fluid or solid substance of the body, by the processes of digestion and absorption.

There is a lot to develop.

Any objection to this move? Mathieugp 03:30, 4 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Cultural

Despite the obviously technical specifics of Borg assimilation, I think this really should be sorted (and slightly summarized) under cultural assimilation. There's really not much to merit a complete separation of a fictional topic based on and extrapolated from actual human behvior. Only if the Borg were based real alien species, it would merit separate articles.

Peter ^Isotalo 05:59, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

I'am afraid Borg assimilation and real world cultural assimilation are not really the same. In Star Trek, all the members of a given species are being attacked at once and those who survive are turned into cybernetic drones who participate to a "collective mind" which is "one" and trying to achieve perfection. That's pretty far from our reality. In cultural assimilation, the social cohesion of an ethnic group is falling apart, members are being dislocated and the group sorts of explodes into the social network of a bigger ethnic group. The individuals who go through assimilation never join a cybernetic monster, they are just attracted by the advantage of belonging to another group of people. Although the situation and the circumstances are forced upon, the individuals often have the liberty to chose to resist the pressure. If all the members of a given ethnic group "join" the other group, it can ultimately lead to the death of their language and the near-complete erasing of their people's century-old collective memory. Personally, I think the differences are important enough to justify another article. -- Mathieugp 13:46, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

The cybernetics are not relevant since they're a fantasy. If this was part of fiction that wasn't as culuturally and demographically specific (young, white, North American and European males) it would be justified. Unfortunately, Star Trek is anything but universal.

Peter ^Isotalo 16:48, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Wolf 359

Since when were there Klingon ships at Wolf 359? I'm changing it to only Starfleet. Kevin W. 00:11, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Original research

"Based on the size of a single nanoprobe and the volume that could be delivered in the short time of a drone attack, a single injection can carry at least five million nanoprobes."

This sounds like original research, which is against Wikipedia policy. Could someone confirm if this was stated in an episode? - LeonWhite 02:09, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm unaware of any such statement, and was coming to the talk page to raise the exact same point :) I'm adding a citation needed tag at this point since Seven did provide a lot of Borg info over her 4 years on Voyager, it might have been slipped in. Should probably delete the sentence soon if no-one can find a source. --Mnemeson 22:06, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Necessary to be stand-alone?

This article is only slightly larger than the piece on the main Borg (Star Trek) page. While I realize the Borg portion could be trimmed and the substantive portion left here, it also occurs to me that the assimilation process depicted in Trek, and the focus of this article, doesn't have much real-world notability. Might it be best to turn this page into a redirect to the Borg page, the topic of which does have broader, out-of-universe/real-world significance? --EEMeltonIV 05:19, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

I've done it as there were no objections, and not much unique detail in this articleMickMacNee (talk) 17:16, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Edit request on 21 May 2012

I'd like to add, or have added, {{R to section}} to this page. Also as a trivial readability matter, a space between "REDIRECT" and "[[".

Thanks for your consideration...

Cbbkr (talk) 22:53, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

 Added --slakr^\ talk / 01:02, 22 May 2012 (UTC)