Talk:Pope Benedict XIV
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Gotti is incorrect link! comment by 195.28.75.30
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[edit]- I couldn't find an article for Vincent Louis Gotti, and he isn't listed at List of notable deceased cardinals, but I've changed the link to a redlink for that name. Thank you for catching that. SWAdair | Talk 10:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Well, we now do have a stub on Gotti, and the Aldrovandi/Aldobrandini goof is also cleared up. Cardinal Passionel is Domenico Silvio Passionei. I don't have time to go on now, so I'll just dump a few links here: Passionei (in German), Passionei (Cath. Enc.), Passionei (Summary), Passionei (Img) ({{pd-art}}). Interestingly, none of these extlinks back up the claim that Passionei played a significant role in cataloguing the Vatican Library. That still needs checking. Might be that it actually was Cardinal Quirini, see [1]. Quirini also needs an article, he can be linked from some places; just search for "quirini"... Finally, this article on Benedict XIV needs references and extlinks added, and if it originally came from the Catholic Encyclopedia, it should be mentioned. There's a template for that somewhere... Lupo 13:12, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- All right, Domenico Silvio Passionei is done... can someone else do Quirini (also called Querini sometimes)? I find these cardinals utterly boring and don't have the energy to do him now. Lupo 19:13, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Boring? You did such good work I was thinking you must be interested in them. :-) SWAdair | Talk 02:38, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Well thanks, but this is more a feeling of "duty" (ridiculous, I know) to correct errors and fill some holes in this encyclopedia than true passion. Anyway, here's the last one I'll do for quite some time: Angelo Maria Quirini. I still don't know who really was the driving force behind the catalogue of the Vatican Library, though. Lupo 08:14, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Boring? You did such good work I was thinking you must be interested in them. :-) SWAdair | Talk 02:38, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- All right, Domenico Silvio Passionei is done... can someone else do Quirini (also called Querini sometimes)? I find these cardinals utterly boring and don't have the energy to do him now. Lupo 19:13, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Well, we now do have a stub on Gotti, and the Aldrovandi/Aldobrandini goof is also cleared up. Cardinal Passionel is Domenico Silvio Passionei. I don't have time to go on now, so I'll just dump a few links here: Passionei (in German), Passionei (Cath. Enc.), Passionei (Summary), Passionei (Img) ({{pd-art}}). Interestingly, none of these extlinks back up the claim that Passionei played a significant role in cataloguing the Vatican Library. That still needs checking. Might be that it actually was Cardinal Quirini, see [1]. Quirini also needs an article, he can be linked from some places; just search for "quirini"... Finally, this article on Benedict XIV needs references and extlinks added, and if it originally came from the Catholic Encyclopedia, it should be mentioned. There's a template for that somewhere... Lupo 13:12, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Start of papacy
[edit]Someone has changed the date for the beginning of his papacy from August 22, 1740 to August 17, 1740. The latter is the date the conclave elected him; the former is the date of his enthronement. (Actually, according to [2], he was enthroned on August 21.) Which date do we give usually, and shouldn't we give both dates (for all popes)? The table at [3] might help, although I don't know where they got their data from. Lupo 07:09, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Quote from Gentleman's Magazine
[edit]This appeared in the Gentleman's Magazine, 1740 Benedict XIV informed by a crazed Franciscan that Antichrist had been born in an Abruzzi village, asked how old he was: on being told 3, replied 'Very well then it will be for my successor to deal with him.'
Not quite serious enough for the main body of the text - though if people think it relevant, do move it.
Jackiespeel 16:42, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
Where does the last paragraph fit into the text?
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Benedict xiv on marriage
[edit]http://saints.sqpn.com/pope0247e.htm
- people are still bad over time, more knowledge but no wisdom —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mirandamir (talk • contribs) 01:48, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Verbatim material
[edit]This paragraph is taken verbatim from 25 Most Evil People of the 18th Century - http://one-evil.org/people/people_18c_Benedict_XIV.htm
Perhaps the most important act of Benedict XIV's pontificate was the promulgation of his famous laws about missions in the two bulls, Ex quo singulari and Omnium solicitudinum. In these bulls he ruled on the custom of accommodating Christian words and usages to express non-Christian ideas and practices of the native cultures, which had been extensively done by the Jesuits in their Indian and Chinese missions. An example of this is the statues of ancestors - there had long been uncertainty whether honor paid to ones ancestors was unacceptable 'ancestor worship,' or if it was something more like the Catholic veneration of the saints. This question was especially pressing in the case of an ancestor known not to have been a Christian. The choice of a Chinese translation for the name of God had also been debated since the early 17th century. Benedict XIV denounced these practices in these two bulls. The consequence of this was that many of these converts left the Church. Addison0372 (talk) 19:04, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
Maybe I'm confused. BUT read this from the article:
"He had a very active papacy, reforming the education of priests, the calendar of feasts of the Church, and many papal institutions. Perhaps the most important act of Benedict XIV's pontificate was the promulgation of his famous laws about missions in the two bulls, Ex quo singulari and Omnium solicitudinum. In these bulls he ruled on the custom of accommodating Christian words and usages to express non-Christian ideas and practices of the native cultures, which had been extensively done by the Jesuits in their Indian and Chinese missions'
Shouldn't it read .... "In these bulls he ruled on the custom of accommodating non-Christian words and usages to express Christian ideas and practices of the native cultures ... etc.?
Isn't this the nub of the dilemma?
(PatrickGuadalupe (talk) 11:21, 25 May 2012 (UTC)).
Bais in this article
[edit]The current style of this page isn't really in the fashion of a typical Wikipedia article. Unfortunately I have not the time nor the skill to rephrase and edit the page. If anybody does have these assets it would extremely satisfactory if somebody could fix this article. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shiftyrye27 (talk • contribs) 00:30, 17 September 2016 (UTC)
- I agree. This article is full of peacock language. The sources of the article are heavily POV Roman Catholic, and avoid even mentioning the Enlightenment, or the Family Compact of the Bourbon Monarchs to eliminate the Jesuits. In the intellectual world, the leading lights were Hume, Locke, Voltaire, Diderot, Newton, etc.; Benedict's Rome was an intellectual backwater, and his revival of Thomism is a sad testament to that fact. Stylistically, the text is a confused mixture of internal church trivia (such as un-revising the Breviary) and international politics (the settlements with the various princes over the appointment of bishops did NOT go in favor of the papacy). A major restructuring is necessary. There is no bibliography as of this date.
Bull Beatus Andreas
[edit]Shouldn't his bull, Beatus Andreas, in which Pope Benedict XIV showed his support of antisemitic blood libel accusations be mentioned in the article. https://zionism-israel.com/hdoc/Beatus_Andreas.htm
From the bull:
"The Blessed Andreas from the region of the village of Rinn in the Diocese of Brixen, was butchered in the cruelest fashion before the completion of the third year of life in the year 1462 by Jews out of hatred toward the Christian faith.
... From the Bollandists for the date 24 March, we are told -- aside from what has been mentioned concerning the blessed boy Simon of Trent -- that in the Diocese of Cologne, a boy Johannchen is venerated, who was killed by the Hebrews out of hatred against the [Christian] faith.
Baillet reports for the same 24th of March, that in Paris a certain boy Richard is venerated as a martyr.
And likewise, in England another boy with the name William is honored. This boy was murdered by the Jews out of hatred against the [Christian] faith.
In the 18th volume of the work of Father Theophile Raynaud, and in particular in the work that is entitled De Martyrio per pestem, in Part 2, Chapter 2, Nr. 7, one reads that in the time of King Ferdinand in Spain a three-year-old boy was killed by Jews out of hatred against Christ in the district of Guardia near Toledo, that veneration is shown him and that he is called the innocent child of Guardia for obvious reasons.
And the same is attested of two other two-year-old twin boys in Sardinia, who bore the names Cessilius and Camerinus.
And further, in the aforementioned apologetic treatise concerning the martyrdom of the Blessed Simon of Trent, there is mentioned on page 242, a little three-year-old girl by the name of Ursula who was murdered in the cruelest manner by Jews out of hatred of Christ, approximately in the year 1442 in Lienz, a small but old town in the County of Tyrol, located in the Pustertal [Puster Valley] toward Kärnten. In the year 1609, an older monument at the church of this place was replaced by a new one. This was chiseled after the older one and one can read, inscribed on the same, the story of that horrible atrocity.
And on page 264, etc., is mentioned a boy Laurentius, whom the Jews killed in 1485 when he was 5 years of age, out of hatred toward the [Christian] faith, and this boy has been regarded and venerated as a martyr since his martyrdom and up to the present day in Marostica in the region of Vicenza and in areas not far from there." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:982:8202:CDA0:9C08:17A1:672D:E25D (talk) 16:57, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
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