Talk:Chorale prelude
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The contents of the Chorale setting (organ) page were merged into Chorale prelude on 6 January 2018. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected page, please see its history; for the discussion at that location, see its talk page. |
Function
[edit]It is curious that the function of chorale preludes is not fully and definitively known. Certainly Sweelinck was required to write such in order to familiarise the congregation with hymn melodies. This much is known, but how exactly the chorale prelude was used in the liturgy seems far less certain. If it was used to introduce the hymn to be sung, then some congregations on certain days would be waiting a very long time - such as O Mensch bewein by JS Bach (Good Friday). Certainly if you go to major parish churches in Germany today, the organist will begin with a flourish, sometimes perceptibly based on the upcoming hymn to be sung, at the end of which the congregation automatically starts to sing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.43.59.159 (talk) 15:52, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]Doesn't look like copyvio to me: http://www.cogsci.princeton.edu/~wn/license.shtml Enochlau 06:15, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Should be moot, since I rewrote it (it could be expanded further, but really the big article should be chorale setting, of which chorale prelude is a subtype, along with chorale fantasia, chorale ricercar, chorale cantata, etc.) Thanks to an anon for improving my late-night prose. :-) Antandrus 16:04, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Interlanguage problem
[edit]As you try to get from the English chorale prelude to the Choralvorspiel on German Wiki, all of a sudden you get redirected to Liturgisches Orgelspiel. And you can't get out of it, which is to say that if you wanted to go FROM Choralvorspiel TO Preludio corale or Prélude de choral or Chorale prelude, "you can't get there from here." LeonardoCiampa (talk) 18:19, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
Merge Chorale setting (organ) into this article?
[edit]Seems like a logical choice: there's little in both articles that doesn't overlap, and this one's the more conventional name. --Francis Schonken (talk) 11:51, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose I'd be inclined to say no on the basis there is not anything to merge in the first place (except the name of a composer or two...): there is not a single reference! 135.23.202.24 (talk) 00:18, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
- Which makes no sense as a rationale for not merging: if it weren't for the few composer names, Chorale setting (organ) would already have been a redirect (without merging anything). --Francis Schonken (talk) 13:04, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
- @Francis Schonken: Well, the content that is on that page is only a few sentences. I don't think any of those is particularly worthy of notice, especially given the fact that they are all already in this article (in slightly altered forms, but still) and that they are unsourced. If it weren't for this discussion, I'd already have gone ahead and just made it into a redirect to this article. 135.23.202.24 (talk) 00:22, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
- Merger complete. Klbrain (talk) 09:36, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
- @Francis Schonken: Well, the content that is on that page is only a few sentences. I don't think any of those is particularly worthy of notice, especially given the fact that they are all already in this article (in slightly altered forms, but still) and that they are unsourced. If it weren't for this discussion, I'd already have gone ahead and just made it into a redirect to this article. 135.23.202.24 (talk) 00:22, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
- Which makes no sense as a rationale for not merging: if it weren't for the few composer names, Chorale setting (organ) would already have been a redirect (without merging anything). --Francis Schonken (talk) 13:04, 26 November 2017 (UTC)