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two sources:

https://reptilis.net/2009/05/18/new-paper-dispells-komodo-myth-also-megalania-may-have-been-the-worlds-largest-venomous-animal/

https://www.canada.ca/content/dam/phac-aspc/documents/services/reports-publications/canada-communicable-disease-report-ccdr/monthly-issue/2019-45/issue-7-8-july-4-2019/ccdrv45i78-eng.pdf.

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GA Review

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Reviewer: Dunkleosteus77 (talk · contribs) 02:47, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dunkleosteus77

You're back User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 02:47, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"the populations of the Eurasian lynx that reached North America 20,000 years ago initially moved toward the southern half of the continent" seems to imply they didn't arrive at the northern half of the continent User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 02:47, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
You follow the Eurasian lynx with its scientific name every time except on first mention User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 02:47, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"The paws of a Canada lynx can support nearly double the weight those of a bobcat can bear" you should clarify you mean before sinking User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 02:47, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"The spoor is more distinct in hard snow" you should just say "paw print" User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 03:30, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
You don't need to gloss stride User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 03:30, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"Tracks may show traces of the fur dragging in the snow around the track...Canada lynx tracks are generally larger than those of the bobcat, with significantly greater impression of fur observable" User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 03:30, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"The spoor is more distinct in hard snow than in mud...whereas in snow they are bigger" User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 03:30, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"same as in other lynxes but unlike other felids" what do other felids have? User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 03:30, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I think the part about the caracal is kinda random User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 03:30, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I did not find relevant similarities to other cats in my sources (there was a mention of the cougar being a similar cat, but it is much larger with a longer tail so not really worth including), but this point about the caracal is mentioned in a few. I would expect it to be so, such ear tufts are not common in cats, and personally I feel it is an interesting similarity to note. Sainsf (talk · contribs) 18:57, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"The lynx can cover 8–9 km (5.0–5.6 mi) every day" if it's primarily nocturnal, this isn't adding up User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 03:30, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Here 'day' means a 24-hour period.. just saying 'night' may be inaccurate as that would rule out movement in daytime. Sainsf (talk · contribs) 18:57, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a top speed estimate? User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 03:30, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Looked for it.. none to be found. Sainsf (talk · contribs) 18:57, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"except for the mother-offspring bond" you should clarify only for females User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 03:30, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
In the first paragraph of the Ecology section, "These lynxes are primarily solitary" onwards should be moved to the Home ranges section User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 03:30, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I generally mention details of the social structure in the first para or two of the Ecology section. I feel it is more noticeable that way, I won't expect a reader to look for it under Home ranges. And there is not much to say about the social structure for this cat, so maybe a line or two at the start would be appropriate. Sainsf (talk · contribs) 18:57, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"face more difficulty in genetic exchange and hence show lower heterozygosity" does this mean they have a harder time breeding and show less genetic diversity or something? User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 03:30, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Clarified. Sainsf (talk · contribs) 18:57, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

My big problem is with the word "heterozygosity". To "show lower heterozygosity" means to be more homozygous, which just means to show less genetic variability, which is a much easier phrase to digest than heterozygosity User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 15:29, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry I forgot to simplify that. Fixed. Sainsf (talk · contribs) 17:06, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Diet and hunting and Relationship with the snowshoe hare talk about the same thing User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 03:30, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not really. One describes what all the cat eats and its competition with coyotes, and the other focuses on how the hare affects the demographic trend of the lynx. But yeah, I think the Relationship section looks better if it comes after Diet. From Diet the reader learns about the lynx's preferences, and the next section would explore how the hare is pivotal in determining the fate of lynx populations. Sainsf (talk · contribs) 18:57, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You're inconsistent between using lynx and lynxes as the plural form User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 03:30, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"The dens are generally situated mid-slope and face south or southwest" oddly specific direction User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 03:30, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Removed. Sainsf (talk · contribs) 18:57, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Dens have been observed under fallen trees and tree roots, from wherein the area outside could be easily surveyed" doesn't seem like particularly important information User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 03:30, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Removed. Sainsf (talk · contribs) 18:57, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"for fur trade" selling pelts is actually still what most hunters do? User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 03:30, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, but I felt wording it this way makes it more explicit. Like it is not hunting for meat or pleasure. Do tell me if 'fur trade' appears repetitive anywhere, will reword it. Sainsf (talk · contribs) 18:57, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think what's really throwing me off is how you described it. You said "To avoid severe population declines during the periodic fall in lynx populations, Alaska and most Canadian provinces regulate the time periods and fur quantity for trapping" instead of "Hunting season and quotas are set based on population data" which is done with every game animal in the US and Canada User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 15:29, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. I will remember this in future. Sainsf (talk · contribs) 17:06, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"the wedge-shaped area between the Kettle and Columbia rivers" strange wording User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 03:30, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I agree but it's actually a paraphrase of what is on the IUCN page. I can't find a good reword for this. Sainsf (talk · contribs) 18:57, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You should link to Kettle River (Columbia River tributary), not the mountain range, and the name of the area is locally called the "wedge" because it's wedged in between the rivers to the south and the Canadian border to the north. User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 20:33, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I see my mistake. Fixed. Sainsf (talk · contribs) 12:04, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

web and news sources need access dates User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 03:30, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
You should say why the 6 areas were marked as important User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 20:33, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Sainsf (talk · contribs) 12:04, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"The large paws, broadened by the wide-spaced metatarsals" this just means their toes are far apart. You wouldn't lose anything by keeping it as "large, broad paws" User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 20:33, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thought so when I added that detail. No problem, removed. Sainsf (talk · contribs) 12:04, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ref 34 is missing page numbers User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 20:33, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. Sainsf (talk · contribs) 12:04, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Why is ref 36 like that? User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 20:33, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No idea. It was the way it is when I began work on the article, and I left it untouched. I have turned it into a normal citation. Sainsf (talk · contribs) 12:04, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The url for ref 70 doesn't link to the right page User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 15:29, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. Sainsf (talk · contribs) 17:06, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for taking this and the copyedit. I have addressed all the points and replied to some. Happy to work on any more suggestions :) Sainsf (talk · contribs) 18:57, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Anything else, Dunkleosteus77? Sainsf (talk · contribs) 06:50, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I thought I already passed this User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 14:11, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Mislabeled picture

The picture under the Threats and Conservation section says "Canadian lynx" (within the picture), when it should be "Canada Lynx". I don't know or care about its nationality. This is a lot like labeling "Canada goose" as "Canadian Geese." Only songwriters get to do that (See, e.g., George Harrison here, and I still object to it. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 18:12, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Didn't notice that. Should we remove the pic? Sainsf (talk · contribs) 18:32, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I just find it mildly annoying. I gather there is no way to fix the picture? I changed the caption. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 18:42, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good now :) Sainsf (talk · contribs) 18:54, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I just had a look at commons: how about replacing it with this unlabeled one : File:The_captive_lynx,_Photo_C_(HS85-10-38342).jpg ? -- BhagyaMani (talk) 21:05, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Can we caption it as killing for fur? Looks like a very old pic. Maybe it was just game? Sainsf (talk · contribs) 21:15, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It does not fully match the 'killing for fur' part of this section. But it does fit with the general subject of this section, namely: threats. And hunting is still a continuing threat, I understand. Whether for fur or trophy makes no difference for the species. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 08:03, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have a preference. The 1921 pic is interesting. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 12:38, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Range in the U.S.?

Hi,

I have a question about this article. The opening sentence says, “The Canada lynx (Lynx canadensis) is a medium-sized North American lynx that ranges across Alaska, Canada, and much of the contiguous United States.”

However, the graphic showing the range of the Canada lynx shows it to be resident only in the most northerly parts of the contiguous U.S. with some possible additional areas in the Rocky Mountains area. I made no changes to the article since I do not know which is correct, but I do not see how both can be. Hank Gillette (talk) 13:01, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Good point. The "much of the contiguous United States" is wrong and needs removing. The IUCN says In the contiguous United States, lynx historically occurred in 24 states (McKelvey et al. 2000), possibly ranging as far down the Rocky mountain chain to include a 25th, New Mexico (Frey 2006). However, there is some uncertainty about whether an occurrence or even many occurrences means the area is part of their historic range (McKelvey et al. 2000). In 2000, the US Fish and Wildlife Service listed lynx as Threatened in 14 States: Colorado, Idaho, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, Montana, New Hampshire, New York, Oregon, Utah, Vermont, Washington, Wisconsin, and Wyoming. So we're only talking about border states and a few others in the Rockies/Northwest and the IUCN map suggests the USFWS is being optimistic. As its clearly wrong now, I've changed the article to "northern parts of the contiguous United States" for now until someone comes up with something better. — Jts1882 | talk 13:53, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It used to say ... it ranges across Canada and into Alaska as well as some parts of the northern United States and extending down the Rocky Mountains to Colorado, where they were reintroduced in the 1990s. Perhaps this should be restored or is it too much US-centric for the lede? — Jts1882 | talk 14:09, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

20th century

Canada lynx#Taxonomy: "In the 19th and early 20th centuries", but "1897" and "1900"; the 20th century started in 1 January 1901. --NGC 54 (talk | contribs) 10:09, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, and made the change to late 19th. If anyone finds this unclear or otherwise objects, removing the numerical century label would be better than leaving in the technically incorrect 20th century description. --Noren (talk) 15:55, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]