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Should that be

"She[Audrey] was the chairperson of the HKBA" and not

"She[Audrey] was the chairman of the HKBA"?

-- Soul 1337 10:42 Apr 18, 2005 (UTC)

Chairperson is more likely. Deryck C. 8 July 2005 05:43 (UTC)

As far as I know, HKBA insists on calling its chief "chairman" instead of the more PC "chairperson". In fact, Eu herself prefers "chairman" to "chairperson". Check this link: http://www.audreyeu.org/public/contents/article?revision%5fid=3275&item%5fid=2107

Dispute on factual accuracy: Deryck and Instantnood are discussing whether it's the in Beijing media or the pro-Beijing media that views Audrey Eu as the evil woman. Deryck C. 8 July 2005 05:43 (UTC)

This dispute is solved by Instantnood with a proof that the occurence of "Beijing Media" was a translation error. Deryck C.
See user talk:Deryck Chan/Archive 2#Audrey Eu article. — Instantnood 07:37, 29 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

POV tag

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Capitalizing "legislative council"

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@Deryck Chan: No, "legislative council" is not a proper noun. Please read and understand MOS:INSTITUTIONS before making such changes. Your argument could be made (but would still be invalid) about any organization, such as "the university" in the context of Harvard University, or "the company" in the context of Home Depot. That's simply not what the MoS calls for. Please restore to lower case. Chris the speller yack 14:08, 30 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Chris the speller: From the first line of the guideline you referred to: "Also treat as a proper name a shorter but still specific form, consistently capitalized in reliable generalist sources". See e.g. DDG search for The Standard newspaper, which consistently capitalises Legislative Council on its own when referring specifically to HK LegCo. Deryck C. 14:13, 30 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Deryck Chan: When the MoS says "a shorter but still specific form" (emphasis mine), I think it means actually specific. There are lots of legislative councils. A specific form would be "Hong Kong Legislative Council", and I don't think you can shorten that without turning it back into a common noun, which is how dictionaries show "legislative council". The fact that one newspaper likes to capitalize it doesn't mean that WP should. Beware the specialized-style fallacy. Chris the speller yack 20:24, 30 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Chris the speller: I think "Legislative Council" is suitably specific in the context of a Hongkongese politician - it can't refer to anything else. But anyway I don't think we can come to agreement on this. Looking at the original sentence in question, I realised readers would probably be better served by rewriting it altogether and adding "Hong Kong" to the sentence, so I did that (which sidesteps the issue of lower vs upper case). Deryck C. 14:18, 31 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Deryck Chan: Yes, rewriting it is the better course of action. Happy editing! Chris the speller yack 15:49, 31 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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