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two pass vs. one pass
[edit]The article should mention why using   is more reliable than just Jidanni (talk) 08:18, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
Preview broken
[edit]I added this H:WT and when I hover over it, it says "There is an issue displaying this preview." I'd fix it, but I forget where the preview is. Is it in the "short description"? --David Tornheim (talk) 01:10, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- @David Tornheim: this is the talk page for discussing improvements to the page Help:Wikitext, it is not a help forum.
- Anyway, the short description is nothing to do with page previews. The preview is pulled from the text of the lead section of a page by JavaScript. I may be wrong, but I think that it only works for articles. Your shortcut is in article space, so it's attempting to start the page previews script; but the redirect target is in Help: space, not an article. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 08:14, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- I didn't think this was a help forum. LOL. That it gives an error with the preview seems to me to be a bug, not a mistake on my part for using the shortcut. Since the preview error is associated with this page, I reported it here. Can you suggest a better place to report the error? WP:Village_pump_(technical), perhaps? Incidentally,WP:Village_pump_(technical) does not give an error when I hover over it. --David Tornheim (talk) 09:15, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- WP:Village_pump_(technical) isn't an article, so Page Previews is not triggered, so there won't be any error. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 09:26, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- Help:Wikitext is not an article either. And this isn't article space, right? Yet the preview is broken for it, but not for WP:Village_pump_(technical).
- Weird, Help:Wikitext doesn't break. Only the shortcut H:WT.
- And the short cut WP:RS doesn't give an error either. So it appears to be a problem with the shortcut.
- H:YFA and H:FIRST also break. So it appears to be a problem with all shortcuts starting with "[[H:" --David Tornheim (talk) 09:41, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- The thing is that H:WT, although not an article, is in article space: you can tell because its Page information shows "Namespace ID 0" - the list of namespace numbers is here. The same goes for any other shortcut beginning "H:". It's not a problem for WP:RS because it's in Wikipedia space: you can tell because its Page information shows "Namespace ID 4", and also "Namespace Wikipedia". The same goes for any other shortcut beginning "WP:". --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 09:52, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- Redrose64 said "The preview is pulled from the text of the lead section of a page by JavaScript". That only applies to "Navigation popups" which can be enabled at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets. "There was an issue displaying this preview" comes from the default preview feature mw:Page Previews which works differently. It's configured to only work with mainspace links. "H" is not a namespace alias so H:WT is a mainspace page. "There was an issue displaying this preview" is displayed on all redirects from mainspace to other namespaces, e.g. MOS:DATE. The message is made by MediaWiki:Popups-preview-no-preview. We could change it to be more informative but I suspect it's a general message used in other situations than cross-namespace redirects. Page Previews knows in advance that the wikilink Help:Wikitext is not in mainspace so it doesn't try to display anything for a direct link like that. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:40, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- I have tested (test deleted) at testwiki:MediaWiki:Popups-preview-no-preview whether wikitext is parsed in the message. It's not so we cannot do anything to give different text depending on circumstances. That would have to be requested at phab:. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:35, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- Redrose64 said "The preview is pulled from the text of the lead section of a page by JavaScript". That only applies to "Navigation popups" which can be enabled at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets. "There was an issue displaying this preview" comes from the default preview feature mw:Page Previews which works differently. It's configured to only work with mainspace links. "H" is not a namespace alias so H:WT is a mainspace page. "There was an issue displaying this preview" is displayed on all redirects from mainspace to other namespaces, e.g. MOS:DATE. The message is made by MediaWiki:Popups-preview-no-preview. We could change it to be more informative but I suspect it's a general message used in other situations than cross-namespace redirects. Page Previews knows in advance that the wikilink Help:Wikitext is not in mainspace so it doesn't try to display anything for a direct link like that. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:40, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- The thing is that H:WT, although not an article, is in article space: you can tell because its Page information shows "Namespace ID 0" - the list of namespace numbers is here. The same goes for any other shortcut beginning "H:". It's not a problem for WP:RS because it's in Wikipedia space: you can tell because its Page information shows "Namespace ID 4", and also "Namespace Wikipedia". The same goes for any other shortcut beginning "WP:". --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 09:52, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- WP:Village_pump_(technical) isn't an article, so Page Previews is not triggered, so there won't be any error. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 09:26, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- I didn't think this was a help forum. LOL. That it gives an error with the preview seems to me to be a bug, not a mistake on my part for using the shortcut. Since the preview error is associated with this page, I reported it here. Can you suggest a better place to report the error? WP:Village_pump_(technical), perhaps? Incidentally,WP:Village_pump_(technical) does not give an error when I hover over it. --David Tornheim (talk) 09:15, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
«pre» Tag also works with self-closing «includeonly»
[edit]In the section on <pre> tags, it shows how one can add an <includeonly> to prevent automatic escaping of markup and HTML. I think it should be noted that if styles are to be added to the pre-formatted text, they should be added after the <includeonly>.
For example:
<pre<includeonly /> style="color: red;"> [[Wiki]] markup & </pre>
gives
Wiki markup &
It should also be noted that you don't need to type the full <pre<includeonly></includeonly>>, and that <pre<includeonly />> works just fine. 208.114.63.4 (talk) 16:34, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
typo, edit request
[edit]In Help:Wikitext#Strikethrough, is
- renderend
supposed to be
- rendered
?
Should
redirect to
instead of
?
Those sections seem to try to explain when and why to use {{Strikethrough|this}} instead of <s>these</s>, or use <del>those</del> instead, but i don't understand the explanation as written, and the results all look the same to me.
--173.67.42.107 (talk) 07:21, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Done as regards the typo. Remsense ‥ 论 07:27, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
