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Maternal ancestry confusion
[edit]@Cyphoidbomb: Sir, we have a confusion here regarding the subject's maternal ancestry. In this NDTV source where the subject is giving an interview, he says "My mother is an Irani", while in this Times of India source, he says "my mother is a Parsi". Since the first source is an interview, I have restored the "Irani". Help please. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:13, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
According to this recent article, his mother is an Irani Zoroastrian. He states that “I would probably be the first actor out of India to be shooting in Iran. My mom has got 21 cousins in Iran, and I want to take her along because she wants to meet some of them. So I am very excited to be there. It’s an unbelievable story". The Parsis migrated from Iran to India between the 8th and 10th centuries, while the Irani community migrated between the 19th and 20th centuries. Abraham's mother's surname is "Irani" as well, and according to this article, she has been wanting to go visit her relatives in Iran for over a decade. I believe the confusion comes from the use of Parsi as an umbrella term synonymous to Zoroastrian. It's quite obvious that his mother is an Irani Zoroastrian of recent extraction, otherwise she wouldn't have knowledge of her 21 cousins in Iran if her ancestors had left Iran over a thousand years ago. 162.84.166.10 (talk) 09:29, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- Even if it was correct, then still, why we should provide this coverage about his family on this section about his own "Early life"? The article would be better off if it excludes details about his family's religions. TheRollBoss001 (talk) 16:07, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- What is the point of the note that's there? The article says Abraham's mother is Irani Zoroastrian. There are already two cited sources but these are supplemented by a note. The note says
According to a 2018 Times of India source, Abraham says his mother is a Parsi and the Parsis have roots in Gujarat, but in an older 2011 NDTV report, Abraham said his mother is a Parsi from Iran, while in a 2022 PINKVILLA report he says his mother is a Zoroastrian and has 21 cousins in Iran In another interview, his mother says, "I'm a full Irani"
. Why is this being beaten to death? Parsis are Zoroastrians. The "but" here makes no sense, implying that being from Iran and belonging to a group that has origins in Gujarat are contradictory. What difference does it make how many cousins his mother has in Iran? How many other biographies give us the exact number of cousins the subject's mother has in a particular country? Finally, having established that his mother is from Iran, why do we care that she once said the words "I am a full Irani"? The whole note is pointless and reads like an attempt to argue within the article. Largoplazo (talk) 17:04, 17 December 2023 (UTC)- @Largoplazo: Because Irani (India) and Parsis are two different communities and Abraham himself seems confused. In one interview he said Parsi, in another he said Irani, both articles and videos are/were available. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:55, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
- Ah, OK, thanks. I didn't realize "Irani" wasn't being used here in its internationally ordinary meaning, comparable to "Pakistani", "Iraqi", etc. Largoplazo (talk) 18:19, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
- Welcome. I almost forgot about this issue. See in this one, he says his mother is an 'Irani', but at the same time compares himself with another person and calls her a 'Parsi'. In the interview article he said Parsi. It is only after this video, I enforced the 'Irani' part. Here too he called his mom a half-Irani, but she corrected him (1:42). - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 18:36, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
- Ah, OK, thanks. I didn't realize "Irani" wasn't being used here in its internationally ordinary meaning, comparable to "Pakistani", "Iraqi", etc. Largoplazo (talk) 18:19, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Largoplazo: Because Irani (India) and Parsis are two different communities and Abraham himself seems confused. In one interview he said Parsi, in another he said Irani, both articles and videos are/were available. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:55, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
February 2021
[edit]@27.61.188.20, Regarding this edits. You didn't provide a source which says Abraham is a "businessman". While it is established that he is a 'model'. Do not make disruptive changes like these without discussion. Talk here and gain consensus as per WP:BRD. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:52, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
"Tara Vs Bilal" listed at Redirects for discussion
[edit]An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Tara Vs Bilal and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 29#Tara Vs Bilal until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. MB 05:29, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
recent edits by Israrhashim1
[edit]@Israrhashim1:, your recent edits used several undefined references. I've tidied them up a bit, but some material is left unreferenced and the content isn't probably what you had intended. Do you have a plan for cleaning it up? -- Mikeblas (talk) 23:45, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
One more add film in this list
[edit]Shoutout at wadala best film ever by John Abraham's career 103.93.113.251 (talk) 22:12, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
"John Abraham(actor)" listed at Redirects for discussion
[edit]The redirect John Abraham(actor) has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 October 21 § John Abraham(actor) until a consensus is reached. Steel1943 (talk) 17:37, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
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