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Schools

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Anonymous contributors keep adding in schools that are not in Roanoke City. I've tried to clean up that section to make it more explicit. –BozoTheScary 15:34, 21 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Is North Side Christian in Roanoke City? It is on the edge of the map on Google Maps. –BozoTheScary 15:34, 21 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Stonewall Jackson Middle School was renamed John P. Fiswhick Middle School. The name change has been finalized and changes have been made to the building and the school website. This should be updated. There is no consensus required. This information is fact and this wiki article is no longer correct. https://www.wsls.com/news/virginia/roanoke/roanoke-school-board-decides-on-name-change-for-stonewall-jackson-middle https://fishwick.rcps.info/

SheltieDad, if you are concerned about it, fix it. ~ GB fan 19:38, 2 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Userbox

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This user lives in or hails
from Roanoke.

I just created a Roanoke user box available for your use shown at right. Patriarca12 21:21, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Add the following to your user page if you'd like to:

{{user Roanoke}}


nice

but woudl someone add the exact point that separates nw sw ne se i believe tht the roanoke times alluded to jefferson st being the e-w line but what is the n-s line ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.254.189.92 (talk) 20:03, 20 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Possible source

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I've taken the liberty of moving the comment below, made today by a very new editor, so more ppl will see it. I have notified him of my action on his talk page. John from Idegon (talk) 05:02, 7 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This is an excellent historiography which contains much information which might constitute glaring absences:http://etd.lsu.edu/docs/available/etd-1113103-100724/unrestricted/Dotson_Jr_dis.pdf
  • Roanoke was likely incorporated on fraudulent population count that did not match census.
  • Early days as extraordinarily atypical company town with incredibly weak government, lack of infrastructure (hospitals, police, sewers, roads)
  • Industrialization and the resultant marginalization of African-American communities; famous lynching, riot, and government turmoil in 1893
Kilgoar (talk) 01:35, 7 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request - 6 December 2014

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Per the United States Census 2013 population estimate, could someone update the population table to reflect an estimated population of 98,465 for 2013? Here's the source: http://factfinder2.census.gov/faces/tableservices/jsf/pages/productview.xhtml?src=bkmk (Roanoke is rank 298)

Thanks.

Bwryan2006 (talk) 15:42, 6 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Semi-protected edit request on 12 January 2016

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Roanoke is an independent city in the southern U.S. state of Virginia. As of the 2010 census, the population was 97,032.[1] It is located in the Roanoke Valley of the Roanoke Region of Virginia.[2] Fermat65537 (talk) 14:23, 12 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "State & County QuickFacts". United States Census Bureau. Retrieved January 6, 2014.
  2. ^ "Roanoke Region of Virginia". Roanoke.org. Retrieved 2009-08-27.

Removed '(formerly Big Lick)' from the article because it is a source of confusion. The city hasn't been Big Lick since the 19th century(cf. the article itself under the 'Incorporation' header. As a resident of Roanoke, when I travel it is already a large enough source of confusion that people think I am from Roanoke Island- I don't think we need to add an old nickname for the town before it was incorporated as a city to the very first mention of the name of the city itself- it is sufficient to include the name 'Big Lick' under the incorporation header.

Done --allthefoxes (Talk) 15:21, 12 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Edit request on 29 April 2017

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Please edit the City Seal. The seal has changed. Current seal is on the right: http://www.roanoke.com/opinion/commentary/city-seal-is-a-timeless-symbol-of-why-we-exist/article_454bab32-f8a8-5e27-a0db-0abd647d0f2f.html

Please change in government section name of current Mayor. David Bowers is former Mayor. Sherman Lea is current Mayor. http://roanokeva.gov/989/City-Council

Request made by Timothy Martin, Citizen Engagement Officer, City of Roanoke.

checkY Both done.Abel (talk) 17:19, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 8 May 2017

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The city seal is incorrect. This is the old seal. Please update this to reflect the correct version. Also, David Bowers is referenced as the current Mayor in the body of text. He is not the current Mayor. Sherman Lea is the current Mayor. 4.79.207.123 (talk) 12:43, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: The new seal must be uploaded first. You can request this at WP:FFU. — JJMC89 (T·C) 16:59, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
checkY Both already done.Abel (talk) 17:18, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Multiple Updates

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The multiple sections need a major overhaul as they have apparently has not been updated since the Great Recession. E.g.

• Wachovia Bank is now Wells Fargo;

• Norfolk Southern no longer has its marketing operations in Roanoke; • Companies that need mentioning are PowerSchool[1], GE Digital/Meridium[2], Anthem BlueCross Blue Shield; Deschutes Brewery deserves a mention [3] and their tap room [4]

• Need mention of Innovation District [5][6]

• Need mention of RAMP program [7]

• Virginia Tech Carilion School of Medicine has been open for ten years now (article says it is going to open) and plans significant expansion. [8][9]

•Taubman Museum of Art has been open for almost 10 years now...probably not considered "new" any more and a paragraph dedicated to the immediate public response to the building or someone's opinion on its architectural appropriateness of it seems irrelevant. Center in the Square has been remodeled and includes a pin ball museum and butterfly habitat, etc.

• Roanoke no longer hosts the Commonwealth Games.

• Under "Landmarks and Points of Interest," Virginia's Explore Park is not in the City of Roanoke; there should be some mention of the Grandin Theater, Elmwood Park, Dr. Pepper Park, etc...I am sure there is much more

This is just a start to the to-do list. I'll get started when I have some time, but if anyone else wants to take the wheel, go for it. Treefingers1206 (talk) 17:02, 26 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  1. ^ http://www.roanoke.com/news/local/roanoke/roanoke-s-interactive-achievement-acquired-by-california-company/article_3b5c6973-167c-5653-8f90-6d6d9ec08b13.html
  2. ^ http://www.roanoke.com/business/news/roanoke/ge-digital-acquires-roanoke-based-software-star-meridium/article_3fcba073-a0b7-5be2-aa76-20caae614aae.html
  3. ^ http://www.virginiafirst.com/news/local-news/deschutes-brewery-coming-to-roanoke/407715158
  4. ^ http://www.roanoke.com/business/news/roanoke/deschutes-brewery-to-open-tasting-room-in-downtown-roanoke/article_7ec4b6d3-c966-5c23-8a7c-e147de232138.html
  5. ^ http://www.roanoke.com/business/news/blacksburg/focus-on-innovation-virginia-tech-and-carilion-to-build-research/article_42387869-cb74-55e6-b7c3-c660150708f6.html
  6. ^ http://research.vtc.vt.edu/news/2016/may/06/gov-mcauliffe-signs-bond-bill-advances-health-scie/
  7. ^ http://www.roanoke.com/business/roanoke-business-accelerator-opens/article_5b2f3164-f429-5068-bacb-e1f9b0837622.html
  8. ^ http://www.roanoke.com/news/politics/general_assembly/virginia-tech-carilion-research-institute-gets-million-in-bond-package/article_dd3aeddd-3722-5ab4-a68e-1009608062ee.html
  9. ^ http://research.vtc.vt.edu/news/2017/feb/28/virginia-tech-foundation-carilion-clinic-form-new-/

Music and dance

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Doing a drive-by spell-check, I found, and have deleted, a fair amount of promotional wording, peacock phrasing and cut/pasting of copyright content, as well as irrelevant and verbose detail from the sections relating to music and dance. Earwig's copyvio tool doesn't seem to flag up other transgressions, but editors who watch this page might like to take a more detailed look into this, and perhaps add citations to support many of the unreferenced statements to which I have added 'cn' tags. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 21:34, 30 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 22 September 2017

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I am the webmaster for three of the external links listed on this page. Old Roanoke - A photographic history of Roanoke Virginia, The Lendy's Web Page, and The Kenney's Web Page. All of these links are no longer correct, and I would like to update them. The current URL's are as follows.

Old Roanoke http://oldroanoke.online The Lendy's Web Page http://oldroanoke.online/lendys/ The Kenney's Web Page http://kenneys.oldroanoke.online

Thank You Archer Gravely Twigvette (talk) 01:13, 22 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Partly done: I've updated the first one. The other two do not appear to meet the guideline for external links; I have removed those (along with various others). Thanks for your interest in Wikipedia! RivertorchFIREWATER 20:20, 22 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Politics?

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What's up with the blank Politics section? It looks really strange and confusing with just the elections box--anyone have even a small paragraph's worth of info that could be added? (I'll try to look into it myself but I'm not sure I'll be able to get around to it anytime soon.) - Liv Handsome (talk) 00:50, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 16 July 2018

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Change the name of Stonewall Jackson Middle School in the Education section to John P. Fishwick Middle School. The school board announced the name change today. http://www.wdbj7.com/content/news/School-board-makes-final-decision-to-change-name-of-middle-school-488263161.html?SAJGFD SheltieDad (talk) 16:51, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You'll need to get a consensus for your change. The source you provided only indicated they have decided to change the name. It will be changed when that decision is implemented. John from Idegon (talk) 17:05, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. Sam Sailor 17:10, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 17 May 2020

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Bob Goodlatte has retired from Congress. The new represenative for VA's 6th District is Ben Cline. VP Not Sure (talk) 07:53, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Could not find appropriate reference in relation to including Cline in the article, so elected to only remove the sentence referring to Goodlatte. Jack Frost (talk) 11:26, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Parks and rec

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The Parks and Recreation section really needs some work. I was surprised to do a Ctrl+F for 'greenway' and find no hits in this article. As great as I'm sure the Roanoke Valley Chess Club is, it shouldn't be the only item mentioned in the section, and it could stand to have a citation for its claim about being the oldest continuing club in the state. I'll work on it when I can, but any assistance would be appreciated. DrOrinScrivello (talk) 13:12, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Timeline

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Hello all. I'm in the process of giving this article a much needed update and some general improvements, with the eventual goal of nominating it for good article status. I'm currently working on the History section, creating a mostly chronological narrative that attempts to provide a better overview than the 'Railroads and coal' section that has been there, which is essentially more of a history of N&W than Roanoke and only contains two citations.

My issue lies with the 'Timeline of Roanoke, Virginia' section that begins 'History'. In its current state it is largely an arbitrary selection of events (the founding of two synagogues are listed, for instance, but no other congregations, and I question the notability of the establishment of the Juvenile and Domestic Relations Court). By default the timeline is collapsed in desktop mode, but on mobile it defaults to being shown, and takes up an unnecessary amount of real estate on the page.

Considering that I'm turning much of the relevant material from the timeline into prose, I'd like to see the timeline itself either split into its own article and fleshed out there (as is the case on many US city GA articles), or simply removed from the Roanoke article once the History section is more complete. That's a fairly substantial change for the article, however, so I wanted to solicit feedback here and try to find consensus before doing anything too drastic. Thanks in advance. DrOrinScrivello (talk) 16:10, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Passed. —Ganesha811 (talk) 04:23, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Thanks for taking up this review. This is my first nomination, but I tried my best to follow the GA criteria as well as the US Cities guideline while I was updating the article. Eager to get your feedback.DrOrinScrivello (talk) 17:15, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for nominating! The article looks in good shape, you've clearly made significant improvements. Just to give you a sense of my process, the initial review takes me a few days. Source review and comprehensiveness/detail usually take up the bulk of the time. I save prose review for last as prose often gets modified during prior parts of the review. I'm optimistic about this review based on my first read-through, but should have detailed comments for you in the next couple days! —Ganesha811 (talk) 17:49, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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1. Well-written:
1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.
  • There are a lot of WP:DUPLINKS - I recommend installing User:Evad37/duplinks-alt, which will provide a handy tool to highlight them, making them much easier to find and remove. Generally, once in the lead and once in the body is sufficient, with some reasonable exceptions where you think a new link is necessary. —Ganesha811 (talk) 16:11, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    • For some reason I had once per section in my head. Done.
  • My usual practice is to go through and make any minor changes myself to save us both time. I should have time to get through that tomorrow. Let me know if there are any changes you object to, or just roll them back yourself. —Ganesha811 (talk) 00:18, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.
  • Pass, no issues.
2. Verifiable with no original research:
2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.
  • Well sourced, no major uncited passages.
2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).
  • The two sources for Roanoke's altitude could be improved - the first does not mention that it is Roanoke's low point, while the second is a hobbyist website with no guarantee of accuracy.
    • Removed those sources, added one from USGS that gives just one figure, so did away with the range
  • Lost-Colony.com's essay is not a reliable source. It's a college project.
    • Found a better source, made wording a little more generic to reflect new source
  • Not seeing support in the Green source (American Antiquarian) for the sentence it's cited at. An 1895 source focusing on the Scotch-Irish exclusively is also less than ideal.
    • Couldn't easily find that info elsewhere, removed
  • If it's possible to add archive links to the many Roanoke Times and other newspaper articles, that would be great and improve ease of verifiability, but I understand if it's not.
  • Is the Blue Ridge Travel Guide a reliable source?
    • Fair point. Couldn't find that claim elsewhere, removed, added ref for Blue Ridge Mts
  • Cite #62 (Naturefest) the title is repeated.
    • Ugh, the Rke Times had an annoying habit of including a short and longer headline in their citations for a while. I removed this one along with another couple dozen later in the article, hopefully you see this before noting all the ones I just removed, sorry! DrOrinScrivello (talk) 18:59, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • What's the argument for USA.com being a reliable source?
    • You mean a source that refers to it as "Roanoke City County" isn't reliable? All of the info was present in the first ref, removed the second.
  • Cites #89 and #90 (Hispanic population) appear to be identical, please combine and check for other duplicate citations.
    • The first was for 2010 data and the second for 2020, but the data from both can be gotten from the same place, so removed the first.
  • Cite #91 is too vague and I don't understand why it is placed where it is in the text (is it just supposed to cite that the 2020 census existed?). Please adjust.
  • Cite #95 is dead w/o archive (Carilion), please add an archive or an alternate source.
    • Replaced with alternate source
  • Cite #105 (Fabris) - the Newsbank link appears to require login, and possibly payment, which is not encouraged for linking. Please find an alternative URL to link to or simply remove.
    • Removed
  • Cite #130 (Henry) has a dead URL, though the archive works. Find a replacement link or tag as dead.
    • Updated link
  • In general the NHR nominee citations can have a "title" added, something like "[Location Name] Nomination]" or similar.
  • Stopping at cite #150 for now, will continue on with the rest later. —Ganesha811 (talk) 13:43, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Some good fixes above, nearly all looks ok!
  • Please modify the other historic resources cites (#129, #147, #162, #165 similarly to how you did the Norfolk & Western one.
    • Done
  • This will be a pain, but I think all the Roanoke Times citations should be formatted consistently - I don't know why a lot of them use Roanoke Times, The (VA) as though it's a first and last name, but just Roanoke Times should suffice. If you want to switch them all to Template:cite news at the same time, you can, but don't bother if it's too much busywork.
  • Can you make a case for RememberTheABA.com being a reliable source?
    • Replaced
  • #198 (Roanoke Parks and Recreation) should be modified, "Roanoke Parks And" is not a first name, put the whole thing as though it were a last name.
    • Done
  • "History - Greenways" from greenways.org looks OK as a cite, but please add details about the source to the citation including the name of the org.
    • Done
  • What's the case for the Roanoke Star News (Stuart) being reliable? I'm guessing this information can be found in an alternate source, so I would recommend swapping it out. If not, expand with last name of author.
    • Replaced
  • Is uselectionatlas reliable? If so, no issue, but if not, swap for alternative source.
  • Acceptable.
  • Add publisher (US House of Representatives) to Cite #223 (Cline office)
    • Done
  • Lowercase headline for Cite #230 (Jones)
    • Done
  • Modify Cite #244 to make sure it's clear it's an SEC form (Lee)
    • Done
  • Cite #247 (Our History - Tribune), just make the title "Our History" and move "Roanoke Tribune", lowercase, to the publisher or author slot.
    • Done
  • Cite #251 (Roanoke Star News) should probably be to the 'about us' or 'funding' or similar section, not just to the site's front page.
    • While I agree, they don't have such a page, and their "About Us" is located at the bottom of the front page. Leave as is, or other suggestions?
  • Leave as is is fine.
  • Cite #268 (Amtrak is back) - missing colon ":" in headline
    • Fixed
  • WSLS - cite to them as publisher, not www.wsls.com. Same thing for WDBJ7 a few cites later.
    • Done
  • For WSLS and WBDJ7 cites, as long as the archive links work, the primary URLs should be to non-archived pages if possible.
    • Unless I'm missing something (entirely possible) I believe they're already like this.
  • I think that's it for sources! Thanks for your hard work on this!
2c. it contains no original research.
  • Nothing major found, pass, any minor issues can be handled in prose review.
2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism.
  • It looks like a few sentences from the city website were lifted fairly directly and scattered into the article. It's not egregious, but some phrasing tweaks will help guarantee that there's no copyvio. Other than that, no issues found by Earwig. Hold for manual check.
    • Think I took care of the worst of the phrases from the city site. Most of what's left are proper nouns.
  • After spot check during prose review (12 sources checked, no issues) pass on copyright.
3. Broad in its coverage:
3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.
  • Is Salvage Dogs the only show ever been set in Roanoke? If so, probably ok. If not, what are the others and why is only one mentioned here?
    • As far as I know it's the only notable production. Others were produced nearby (a couple that come to mind are What About Bob and Dirty Dancing filmed at Smith Mountain and Mountain Lakes, respectively), and there's been portions of a couple of Lifetime movies filmed downtown, but not much of anything within the city itself.
  • Issue addressed, pass. History coverage is good based on what I can read, not missing anything major.
3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).
  • The 'Notable people' section should be split out into its own article and linked here with a section header and hatnote. Happy to help with this if you are not comfortable creating a new page (not sure if you have before?). Let me know!
  • Issue addressed, pass. Any remaining tweaks can be handled in prose review.
4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
  • Some tweaks during prose review to avoid boosterism, pass.
5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
  • After nominator expansion, no issues of stability, pass.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.
  • The File:City Seal of Roanoke, VA.jpg - was it published before 1928 for sure? Not seeing obvious evidence of that.
    • This link illustrates the original 1884 seal and introduces the city manager's proposal to reinstate it; this link shows the City Council adopting the change, so I think this is kosher to use.
  • Issues addressed, pass.
6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.
  • The airport image is both fairly low-quality and out of date. Is no better copyright-suitable image available?
  • Looks good to me, certainly an improvement! Pass.
7. Overall assessment.
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by DirtyHarry991 talk 02:23, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Roanoke Star
Roanoke Star

Improved to Good Article status by DrOrinScrivello (talk). Self-nominated at 19:09, 29 December 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Roanoke, Virginia; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

  • Article has achieved Good Article status. No issues of copyvio or plagiarism. All sources appear reliable. Hooks are interesting and sourced. QPQ is not needed as it is the 5th nomination. Looks good! Thriley (talk) 04:34, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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